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Title: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: alexandramac on Thursday 31 January 13 06:22 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone.  I am trying to see if my 3xgrandparents daughters Hannah and mary Ann were twins.  They were both born in 1837 in London, but I don't have a month for either.  Their parents Samuel Cummins and Hannah O'Malley/O'Maley were married in Lambeth 1827.  There were other children as well.  I would love if someone could please look them up for me.  I am a twin too and trying to map any more pairs in the family.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: Eyesee on Thursday 31 January 13 08:10 GMT (UK)
Do these two belong

Chelsea St Luke
1831 Jan 23. Mary Ann, d/o Samuel & Hannah CUMMINS, Marlbro' Square, Stone Mason, born 1831 Jan 2
1844 Sep 1, John, s/o Samuel & Hannah CUMMINS, ?? Court, Laborer, born 1843 Dec 9

Ian C
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 31 January 13 08:12 GMT (UK)

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Hannah Cummins

Name:    Hannah CUMMINS
Age:    7
Birth Date:    abt 1838
School:    St Paul's School
Borough:    Westminster
Admission Date:    19 May 1845
Parent:    Samuel
Parent 2:    Hannah
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 31 January 13 08:16 GMT (UK)
1841 Census
Westminster, Middlesex
HO107/732/8/St George Hanover Square
Samuel CUMMINS, 35, Labourer, born Ireland
Hanah, 25
Samuel, 13
MARY ANN, 10
Amelia, 6
HANAH, 5
Joseph, 1
All others born in County except Samuel Snr

You may already have this;
http://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan2.php?orphan_ID=1273
All the Children except Mary Ann are on the Site
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: Eyesee on Thursday 31 January 13 08:24 GMT (UK)
These two as well.

St George Hanover Square
1837 Aug 6, Hannah, d/o Samuel & Hannah CUMMINS, Commercial Rd, Labourer, born 1837 Jul 19
1846 Apr 29, Joseph, s/o Samuel & Hannah CUMMINS, Mason, Abt 7 years old

Ian C
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: Eyesee on Thursday 31 January 13 08:29 GMT (UK)

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Hannah Cummins

Name:    Hannah CUMMINS
Age:    7
Birth Date:    abt 1838
School:    St Paul's School
Borough:    Westminster
Admission Date:    19 May 1845
Parent:    Samuel
Parent 2:    Hannah

Sister Amelia was admitted on same day age 9.

Ian C
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: alexandramac on Thursday 31 January 13 09:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you every one.  The 5 younger children ended up here in Hobart  Australia after their mother Hannah O'Maley was transported here for larceny.  The children were sent to St Johns Orphanage till their mother was free, some for several years.  I do not know what happened to Samuel as Hannah remarried here.  Are there any likely deaths please?
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: alexandramac on Thursday 31 January 13 10:11 GMT (UK)
Can Hannah have had Samuel so young, I think she was born in 1813...married in 1827...  On census she is 25 and he is 13......hmmmm
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: heywood on Thursday 31 January 13 11:21 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,633761.new.html#new

For information There is a relevant thread here also.
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: heywood on Thursday 31 January 13 11:24 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,633770.msg4813869.html#msg4813869

Have you seen the details of her trial?

I posted this in other thread but it may be best to leave that thread for now as that is in Mayo forum.
Title: Re: Hannah and Mary Ann Cummins
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 01 February 13 08:11 GMT (UK)
Can Hannah have had Samuel so young, I think she was born in 1813...married in 1827...  On census she is 25 and he is 13......hmmmm

Ages for adults on the 1841 census are rounded down, so she could be aged 25-30.  In the same way Samuel senior could be 35-40.