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Title: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: NHS0330 on Tuesday 29 January 13 15:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Was wondering if some of the experts could help me with deciphering the surname of Aaron Potipher's mother's Surname from his will. First name seems to be Sarah... surname not so sure of. Will is from around 1795 from Barking, Essex region.

Any help would be muchly appreciated, i've attached a cut version of the text + full Will (Top section of Will over too the right.

Cheers

* Moderator comment: full will removed and replaced with a section only.  Please do not post entire copyright images on Rootschat. Only portions may be posted, for decipherment purposes *
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 29 January 13 15:10 GMT (UK)
At first glance I see Mutson or Cunison
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 29 January 13 15:11 GMT (UK)
Looking at the M at the beginning of Mother, I am going off Mutson
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: amber39 on Tuesday 29 January 13 16:00 GMT (UK)
I vote for Cuniston ,that was my first thought.

Regards   Amber39
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: veeblevort on Tuesday 29 January 13 16:59 GMT (UK)
It looks to me like 'Cunicon'.

vv.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: DavidJP on Tuesday 29 January 13 17:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I would say that it's either Cunison or Cullison as the letter after the i is definately an s.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: mrs.tenacious on Tuesday 29 January 13 21:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Could it be Ennison?  To me, it looks like there's a stroke at the top of the capital letter, perhaps it's a curly E?  Are there any other capital Es on the will you can compare it with?

Mrs. T.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: Whipby on Tuesday 29 January 13 21:25 GMT (UK)
Looking at the whole will, I think it begins with a C and my vote is for Cunison.  Is there such a name?
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 29 January 13 21:37 GMT (UK)
Best I can make out is Cunison, which appears to be a Scottish surname...
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: craggagh on Tuesday 29 January 13 22:20 GMT (UK)
Hello -

I would not rule out Ennison.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: NHS0330 on Tuesday 29 January 13 22:22 GMT (UK)
Thankyou for the help, Fairly certain it is Cunison. Aaron was born in 1729 and there is a Marriage Bond & allegation in Essex 1736 for a Sarah Potiphar to a Francis Cunison...It states on the recored Sarah is a Widow so it seems Aaron's father died soon after he was born. Unfortunately that doesn't give me her maiden name or help too much in finding the name of Aaron's father which has been elusive for a while now. Given Cunison isn't an overly common surname i dare say there will be variations on it's spelling on records which i will look into.

I shall keep digging.

Cheers
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 30 January 13 06:48 GMT (UK)
So you need a marriage of a Sarah to a Mr Potipher pre1726 - let's hope it is in a parish where the records from that era have survived!

What parish was Aaron christened in? And were there other siblings (Esp older?) Was his father not named on the christening record? That is unusual. Except in cases of illegitimacy I have often seen in older records just the father named, but not just the mother.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: NHS0330 on Wednesday 30 January 13 08:17 GMT (UK)
Yes trying to find a Sarah married to a Mr Potipher/Potiphar in the early 1700's. I am yet to find a Christening record for Aaron, the only way i know he was born around 1729 is that on the 1759 Marriage Bonds & Allegations record to Elizabeth Cleeve it states he is 30 years of age.

His Will says he was from Barking, Essex, he was married in St Catherine, Coleman Church which i believe now to be called 'All Hallows Coleman Church' in nearby Aldgate...

There were a few burials i found through searching for a couple of Potipher's who were buried in Barking, Essex around the later part of the 1700's which could be his brothers but i cannot seem to find Christening records for them either.

A slight conundrum i guess...
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 30 January 13 11:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Could it be Ennison?  To me, it looks like there's a stroke at the top of the capital letter, perhaps it's a curly E?  Are there any other capital Es on the will you can compare it with?

Mrs. T.

That's what I thought and I hadn't seen your response.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 30 January 13 11:22 GMT (UK)
There is a capital E not far below the line in question (see the bigger clip) and it doesn't match - the first letter of the surname is written as a small "e" I think...yes, I'm changing my mind  ;) ;D

Added: however, as the OP has found a marriage of a Sarah POTIPHER to a CUNISON, around the right time period, it could be a C after all  :-\
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: veeblevort on Wednesday 30 January 13 11:28 GMT (UK)
The probate details mentioned assets in the Netherlands I believe. Has your
searching included that country?

Agree with PrueM that there is no match with 'E'. Will attach a sample 'C'
from the original post which is nicely written.

vv.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: NHS0330 on Wednesday 30 January 13 11:41 GMT (UK)
The probate details mentioned assets in the Netherlands I believe. Has your
searching included that country?

Agree with PrueM that there is no match with 'E'. Will attach a sample 'C'
from the original post which is nicely written.

vv.


Where exactly do you in the Will do you see it mentions the Netherlands? I wouldn't have a clue on researching genealogical information in the Netherlands and what avenues are available.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: veeblevort on Wednesday 30 January 13 12:32 GMT (UK)
Perhaps my memory is faulty, the original image has been cropped, but I remember something about a notary public resident at The Hague, which referred to assets. I didn't pay much attention as it didn't relate to your query. Did I misunderstand - perhaps it related to the next document?

vv.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: NHS0330 on Wednesday 30 January 13 12:59 GMT (UK)
Yeah that relates to the following Will at the bottom from another person.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: veeblevort on Wednesday 30 January 13 13:17 GMT (UK)
Very sorry, I could have led you badly astray there.

vv.
Title: Re: Help with surname from Will - Aaron Potipher
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 30 January 13 19:30 GMT (UK)
OK, I've changed my mind back again - it's a C  ;) :P

(Yes, the Hague reference is on the will following this one)