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Title: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: mwkelly on Wednesday 23 January 13 06:53 GMT (UK)
I wonder if someone can shed some light on an entry I've found which could be of interest to me

*1811 Jan 29 Letter to, instructing delivery of investment of Richard Atkins to John Laurie (Reel 6002; 4/3490D p.94

Judge-Advocate Richard Atkins features in my family as he employed my 8 x grandmother Ann Bockerah as a housekeeper after she became a widower when her convict Jewish Husband died in Sydney in 1791 [Solomon Bockerah] It is said that Richard and Ann had a daughter Penelope Atkins born 13 Feb 1793. Ann died a few days later from the child birth.. Richard erected an monument at St John's cemetery in Parramatta in her honor. Ann [Australian Womens Weekly April 1976] and Solomon had a daughter Sarah Bockerah whom married John Laurie in 24 Apr 1810 at Lane Cove. Hence my interest in the above entry/letter dated 1811
Look forward to hearing from you
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Murray Kelly
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: fastfusion on Wednesday 23 January 13 08:10 GMT (UK)
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842)

is the newspaper / gazette at the time

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/3     which is pretty much held by the Mitchell Library in Sydney,   as with the microfilm collection listing u have found....  a snail mail to the librarian may result in an lookup or expansion of that object......

in saying that rootschat chatterer abcsydney who can be found in the chat room is familiar to that library and may , if asked go in and look that up.....

I do suggest a general index hunt within the trove site if you havent already cos an article may appear.

as for the cemetery >   (and google St Johns Cemetery cos there is often loose stuff floating)

Parramatta: St John's Cemetery


austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=789


the lane cove librarian also may be worth a contact >

Lane Cove Library eResources


www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/.../Library/Operations/Connect.htm



Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....

other than that I cannot be of any assistance

 :)
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: fastfusion on Wednesday 23 January 13 08:13 GMT (UK)
***** grrr    that lane cove library link didnt get off the ground,  u may have to google that direct connect    soz

 :)
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: mwkelly on Wednesday 23 January 13 08:32 GMT (UK)
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842)

is the newspaper / gazette at the time

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/3     which is pretty much held by the Mitchell Library in Sydney,   as with the microfilm collection listing u have found....  a snail mail to the librarian may result in an lookup or expansion of that object......

in saying that rootschat chatterer abcsydney who can be found in the chat room is familiar to that library and may , if asked go in and look that up.....

I do suggest a general index hunt within the trove site if you havent already cos an article may appear.

as for the cemetery >   (and google St Johns Cemetery cos there is often loose stuff floating)

Parramatta: St John's Cemetery


austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=789


the lane cove librarian also may be worth a contact >

Lane Cove Library eResources


www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/.../Library/Operations/Connect.htm



Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....

other than that I cannot be of any assistance

 :)Thanks very much

Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: mwkelly on Wednesday 23 January 13 09:06 GMT (UK)
I have also located this entry on a google search under the name Bockerah and wonder does some body out there have " Michael Flynn book"? as apprently in his book "The Second Fleet' devotes nearly a page to Ann and Solomon Bockerah. I would very much like to no what was mentioned

Cheers
Murray Kelly
 
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 23 January 13 09:17 GMT (UK)


Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....


The National Archives of Australia won't have any official/government records from that time - they would all be either in State Records NSW or the State Library of NSW.  Some might be at the NLA but it would mainly be personal records you'd find there.

The Colonial Secretary's papers are held at State Records which has a copy service available for a reasonable fee: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online#c (http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online#c)
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 24 January 13 11:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Murray

As requested attached is the page from the book: The Second Fleet: Britain's Grim Convict Armada Of 1790 Written By Michael Flynn.

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: mwkelly on Thursday 24 January 13 20:12 GMT (UK)
Many thanks again Cup of life for that interesting account of Solomon and Ann Bockerah on Michael Flynn's book 'The Second Fleet'. by chance would John Laurie be mentioned whom arrived Sydney town on the 'Fortune' in 1806?
Cheers
Murray Kelly
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 25 January 13 05:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Murray,
Index page for John LAWRENCE/John LAWRIE refer back to page 163 John LAURIE husband of Sarah in the book: The Second Fleet: Britain's Grim Convict Armada of 1790 by Michael Flynn.

These may be of interest.
Who Do You Think You Are? Magazine June 2012 page 42, has an article and Photo of John LAURIE. (The link below takes a little time to load before displaying page 42)
http://in.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416221855&o=int&prev=sub&p=43

http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/nsw/cases/important_forbes_period/
http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/nsw/cases/case_index/1826/r_v_laurie/
http://bradleyandwinneyfamily.com/second-fleet-ternen.html

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: Ngaire Elizabeth Hall Patiole on Saturday 23 April 16 08:20 BST (UK)
I have also located this entry on a google search under the name Bockerah and wonder does some body out there have " Michael Flynn book"? as apprently in his book "The Second Fleet' devotes nearly a page to Ann and Solomon Bockerah. I would very much like to no what was mentioned

Cheers
Murray Kelly

Hi my name is Ngaire
Solomon and Ann are my 7th great gandparents through my grandmother i am searching for Solomon and have found Ann they had a daughter Sarah that was burred at Devon Shine/Sand Hills Cemetery which is now Central station Sydney, Solomon Also was burred there and i fear they are still under there but will keep looking, as for Ann i have found her, if you wish to talk.
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 23 April 16 14:20 BST (UK)
Ngaire
Devonshire St / Sand Hills burials were, I believe, exhumed and reburied out at Botany Bay.
MAJM will probably be along with more precise details.
You also probably should remove your email address from public view. If you don't, a moderator will probably soon do it anyway.
Dawn M
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: MGB on Tuesday 09 November 21 03:35 GMT (UK)
Can anybody help with the whereabouts of the burial of Sarah (Bockerah) Laurie please?
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 08 September 22 10:48 BST (UK)
NSW BMD index has her burial at St James Sydney.
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: MGB on Thursday 08 September 22 12:59 BST (UK)
Thanks. I wasn’t sure where “St James” actually is or was. St James church in King St, plots around the church? I thought maybe Central Railway and then relocated. But the church sounds more feasible. I thought St John’s in parramatta was the oldest cemetery in Australia, where Ann Buckrel (Bockerah) is buried. St James may not have been a cemetery as such, just a convenient burial ground.
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 08 September 22 14:47 BST (UK)
Information about the church and (scroll down) early burials.

https://www.sjks.org.au/church/history-and-architecture/
Title: Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
Post by: MGB on Thursday 08 September 22 22:16 BST (UK)
Thanks again