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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Dorset => England => Dorset Lookup Requests => Topic started by: marionjean on Tuesday 22 January 13 15:12 GMT (UK)
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looking for help for john billows/bellows born about 1775 in poole i believe he married a ann lacy on 17/9/1798. i am trying to find his parents etc. can anybody help please.
i believe he died 23/10/1850 at north street poole and he was a ropemaker/mariner
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looking for help for john billows/bellows born about 1775 in poole i believe he married a ann lacy on 17/9/1798. i am trying to find his parents etc. can anybody help please.
i believe he died 23/10/1850 at north street poole and he was a ropemaker/mariner
Do you have him or his wife on census if so where/when. Why do you think he was born in Poole
What information does the death certificate give regarding the informant.
Sorry it is all questions :)
Rosie
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Hi,
This is a very useful site for those with Dorset connections; a great variety of records are available :
http://www.opcdorset.org/
Nanny Jan
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i have a copy of 1841 census where john is living with ann his wife. he was living in north street st james parish he was a ropemaker. i say he was born in poole because most of all his family were born in that are by family i mean children and grandchildren etc until they moved to southampton i do not have his death certificate
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nanny jan - yes i have looked at opc for dorset by they do not go far enough back i need more parish records etc or somebody that has already traced their tree back. thank you for your advice though.
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The 1841 census has his age as 70 and Ann's as 60 both born in Dorset.
As ages were rounded down 70 would put his age as 70 - 74 ie born c1766 -1770.
In 1851 Ann is age 73. I presume this is her christening
Ann Lacy
birth 14 Mar 1779 OLD MEETING HILL STREET-PRESBYTERIAN,POOLE,DORSET
parents Thos. Lacy & Ann
Did they marry at the same church? The marriage could give some clues to the origin of John.
Rosie
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there marriage on 17/9/1798 just give the names of john bellows and ann lacy as it was pre 1837 that seems to be all the information you get. the copy i have is from dorset marriages 1538-1812 people present were a william jenkins and sarah turner. it is a shame that their fathers names were not given
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Sometimes the witnesses help but obviously not on this occasion. :'( Early marriages sometimes have the parish of residence. He could have moved to the coast to live to follow a career as a mariner. :-\
Rosie
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that it why i have got stuck now no more info found
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The free index on findmypast has a 'Parish Collection' christening at Spetisbury in 1777 for a John Bellows but you will need credits to view it. Spetisbury isn't that far from Poole :-\
Rosie
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i had some credits on find my past and i found a john bellows bapt 17/1/1771 and he was son of john and mary
if only i could find that i am going the right way it is so difficult i do not think that anybody else has gone back that far
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Have you tried tracing forwards the John Bellows that you found on FindMyPast
Rosie
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sorry to sound stupid rosie but what is FindMyPast ???
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Hi
The baptism of John Bellows in Spetbury maybe the wrong one.
June 28th 1878 Spetbury, burial, John son of John and Mary Bellows,
States he is an infant~would 18mnth old child be classed as an infant?
claire
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Hi
FindMyPast = find my past
claire
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Found an interesting baptism
14 MARCH 1792 ,POOLE Jonadab Bellows son of Jonadab and Hannah Billows aged 17 years.
A tree on An****ry also has this person marrying Ann Lacy.
claire
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if this jonadab bellows married ann lacy his full name would have been given on the marriage banns. when you look at other marriages you find that jonadab biloows is how it is written.
i dispute the tree on ancestry as it says on the marriage banns that is was a john bellows who married ann lacy you will find they did not name any of their children jonadab and on an inquest for a death witnesses included john bellows and william lacy are named. jonadab would have been written as jonadab on a legal docs
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I am not saying that Jonadab is right. :)
A person can call themselves what they like providing it is not for fraudulent purposes. If it was Jonadab that married Ann Lacy he could call himself John without changing his name legally and could continue to call himself John without legally changing his name.
There was a post on here the other day about name changes, I'll try and find the link
Rosie
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It was on this post about identity theft
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,632519.msg4804253.html#msg4804253
Dawnsh gave the following link to the National Archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/change-of-name.htm