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Title: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: bluestar on Friday 18 January 13 11:24 GMT (UK)
My relative William Sutton appears on an 1871 census age 4, living with his parents in Dagenham.
I have his 1881census details, he married in Nov 1889 and i have his 1891 census and his 1901 census with his wife Louie Sutton. Louie Sutton dies in 1902 age 35 in Romford. 

My Grandmother told me that he (her grandad) remarried and had lots more children, however i do not have any information about this.

Can anyone find for me marriage of William Sutton in Dagenham area after 1902?

Many thanks
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: Lostris on Friday 18 January 13 11:33 GMT (UK)
too many candidates in Essex Districts like Romford, Edmonton, West Ham etc.

Really need something unique to pin it down - frinstance any childrens names - that way we could see a Mother's maiden name in the Births Index, and thus work back to a Sutton marriage ....
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 18 January 13 11:38 GMT (UK)
Have you tried locating him in 1911  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: bluestar on Friday 18 January 13 11:42 GMT (UK)
hi Thank you for replying
The last details i have are 1901
Address 16 Essex Road, Ilford, Chadwell Heath

William Head age 34
Louie Sutton Wife 32----------i know she dies in 1902
Florence E Sutton age 10
William H Sutton age 8
Herbert E Sutton age 7
Elizabeth L Sutton age 5 b essex chadwell heath
James R Suton age 3 b essex chadwell heath
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 18 January 13 11:46 GMT (UK)
Census give his place of birth as Chadwell Heath.  If he remarried it was after the end of March 1911  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 18 January 13 11:52 GMT (UK)
I see from his first marriage that there is no middle name.  There are 2 marriages in Romford district with husband William, one spouse surname is Bones the other Andrews.

There are 6 children showing to the Bones marriage on freebmd, you can look at them by selecting births after 1911 Romford reg district Surname Sutton, mothers maiden name Bones.  They may ring a bell. ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: JJen on Friday 18 January 13 11:55 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage of William Sutton to Louisa A Bones -

q2 1913, Romford Vol 4a Page 735

The census for William are within the Registration District of Romford  therefore the above could be a possibility. However the purchase of the marriage certificate is the only way to actually find out if this is the William you are researching

The Sutton/Bone marriage produce 6 children.

JJ

I see we have the same idea Rosie, just didn't type quick enough  :)
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: Lostris on Friday 18 January 13 12:06 GMT (UK)
well, as said, he's 45 in 1911 and unmarried in Chadwell .....
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 18 January 13 12:11 GMT (UK)
Do you know when/where he died- the death cert may name an informant who might give you a clue? Was there an obituary,that may say father of/husband of ...etc etc .

Does he appear on anyone's wedding photo with a lady that people can't name?

Did he leave a will and mention other children?

Carol
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: MargP on Friday 18 January 13 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have this Death Record

William Sutton
Jan Qrt 1924
Age 57
Reg Romford Essex
4a
660

No sign of a will

Margp
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: bluestar on Friday 18 January 13 12:37 GMT (UK)
Thank you Marg, Carol, JJ and Lostris for your help with this.  My Nan and all her siblings have now passed away so I dont think i shall be able to find any more out from the family.  Can anyone see his children on 1911 especially James would only be 13 and Elizabeth 15?? Are they with their father?
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: Lostris on Friday 18 January 13 12:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you Marg, Carol, JJ and Lostris for your help with this.  My Nan and all her siblings have now passed away so I dont think i shall be able to find any more out from the family.  Can anyone see his children on 1911 especially James would only be 13 and Elizabeth 15?? Are they with their father?

Yes, both there - and the family all with their Grandma.
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: bluestar on Friday 18 January 13 12:51 GMT (UK)
I see from his first marriage that there is no middle name.  There are 2 marriages in Romford district with husband William, one spouse surname is Bones the other Andrews.

There are 6 children showing to the Bones marriage on freebmd, you can look at them by selecting births after 1911 Romford reg district Surname Sutton, mothers maiden name Bones.  They may ring a bell. ;)

Rosie

Many thanks i shall have a look for this now! x
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: MargP on Friday 18 January 13 13:18 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have this Death Record

William Sutton
Jan Qrt 1924
Age 57
Reg Romford Essex
4a
660

No sign of a will

Margp
It may be a long shot, but it may be worth sending for this DC, the informant may be his second wife
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: bluestar on Friday 18 January 13 13:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you Marg
I shall order the death cert, probably a good chance of more information on that than anywhere else  :D
Many thanks again for all your help
 :)
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: MargP on Friday 18 January 13 13:36 GMT (UK)
Let us know the outcome

Good luck

Marg
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 18 January 13 13:55 GMT (UK)
Findmypast has burials for Great Ilford on their burial index including one for a William died 1924 and Louise (sic) died 1902.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/parish-records/burials?tab=3

You can view these if you don't have a subscription by using the free credits they are talking about
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,631730.msg4798012/topicseen.html#new

FindMyPast's t&c's don't allow us to do look ups for you. :)

Rosie
Title: Re: William Sutton born 1866 in Dagenham remarried after 1902??
Post by: MargP on Friday 18 January 13 14:10 GMT (UK)
Hi

William and Louise Sutton are both buried at Great Ilford St Mary Essex,

Margp