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Searching for Felix Leonard Chatter born around 1896 in Wallsend on Tyne around ? 1896. He died in 1915 but I can find no record of him other than death and medal record, nor in the 1901 or 1911 census. I have used every permutation of the name Chatter but nothing
Can anyone help?
Lottee
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Hi Lottee...He's on the Commonwealth War Graves Site:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1641611/CHATTER,%20FELIX%20LEONARD
Carol
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Thanks Carol, thats a great help
The biggest problem is finding him in the 1901 and 1911 census, he doesn't appear to exist
Lottee
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I tried typing Felix..no surname just date and place of birth but I get Felix Dolan in 1901 & 1911...don't know if that surname rings any bells.
Carol
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Where did you get his year and place of birth from?
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Thanks Carol but it doesn't. The record I do have (ww1 death) shows clearly his name as Felix Leonard
Lottee
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Hi
Place of birth was from UK, Soldiers died in the First World War record. At the moment 1896 is guesswork though I have gone back as far as 1870 and still nothing
Lottee
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There is a family tree on Ancestry with Felix Chatters born in Cavendish, Suffolk in 1865 married in Yorkshire in 1907..no wife's name give...died July 1914
In Keighley Yorkshire in 1901
Carol
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Sorry Carol
I appreciate the suggestion but this Felix died in March 1915 in Flanders. He certainly is a mystery.
Lottee
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Lotte..if you're having problems finding him...so will others...so..why not change the title of your post to include his full name and anyone googling that name will be brought here.
There is a slim chance they could have got the death date wrong...but..I don't know what else to suggest ???
Carol
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Thanks Carol, have done this and you never know might get lucky Thanks for your help
Lottee
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What made you guess his year of birth as 1896 ?
He was in 2nd Battalion of the Northumberland Fusiliers.
This could indicate that he was an established regular soldier,
before WW1 recruiting campaigns swelled the NF to upwards
of 27 battalions.
2 Btn was in South Africa up to 1902.
In India before 1914.
Felix was a popular christain name for Irishmen !
Michael
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Medal listing for WW1 shows 3 with surname Chatter in Northumberland Fusiliers -
Felix L.
George
James
Can't see likely candidates for any of them.
Annette
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Hi
There is a Death Record for him on FindMyPast
CHATTER Felix L
Northumberland Fusiliers
Private
Number 16895
Year 1915
Vol I.31
Page 223
GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)
Margp
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http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=10540#listlink
Give details of the Roll of Honour for the County Borough of Tynemouth and there is an entry that says:
Chatter, Felix Leonard, Northumberland Fusiliers, killed in action in France March 1915. - 4 West Street, Milburn Place
Boo
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The free index to the 1911 shows a Frank Chatter aged 15 born Tynemouth resident somewhere in Carlisle ??? ???
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I can't account for Felix but I do see the "evolution" of one branch of Wallsend CHATTERs. It looks as though a George CHATTA/CHATTO took up with the housekeeper Elizabeth LENNON and produced a few children who seem to have taken on the surname CHATTER in later life (although registered as LENNON and variants).
1871
5109/42/32
George CHATTA
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1881
5071/58 / 37
Geo CHATTOR
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1891
4221/ 112/ 59
George CHATTA
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Births Dec 1895 LENNAN Francis Tynemouth 10b 175
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1901
4798/ /10/ 11
Robert FELL and family.
Margaret Ann CHATTER goes on to marry a FELL later in 1901.
Sorry-long winded and got us nowhere near Felix! :)
Maureen
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Maybe Felix Leonard Chatter started life as Francis Lennon, this evolved into Francis Leonard Chatter, then to Frank as per 1911, (a common derivative of Francis) and finally he decided on Felix to be different!
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Maureen,
I was right in the middle of typing that out, and you beat me to it!
I have found exactly the same family.
I feel sure Frank and Felix are one and the same.
1901
4798/ /10/ 11
Robert FELL and family.
Robert's wife is Elizabeth:
Marriage from North Tyneside R.O.
Robert Fell + Elizabeth Leming/Elizabeth Chatter
The 1901 household also includes a 6-year-old Frank
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The free index to the 1911 shows a Frank Chatter aged 15 born Tynemouth resident somewhere in Carlisle ??? ???
Using the 'other members of the household' index search on the 1911 shows that young Frank is somewhere where there are a lot of other 14 -15 year old boys, so perhaps he was in an institution of some sort ???
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perhaps he was in an institution of some sort ???
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X729-8K5
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Thank you all for you thoughts and theories. I haven't progressed any further so will set about working on all these possibilities and see where they lead me.
He certainly is a mystery
Many thanks to you all
Lottee
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Realise I've come onto this quite late but I've just been re-researching "Felix Leonard" for the Tynemouth World War One commemoration project. http://www.tynemouthworldwarone.org/ (http://www.tynemouthworldwarone.org/)
The newly released Register of Soldiers Effects names his mother as Elizabeth Fell, brother in law as Maurice Long (his sister Kate married Maurice in 1903) and names two brothers James and George.
I'd certainly concur that he is indeed Frank Lennon Chatter