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Title: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Carleton on Tuesday 15 January 13 16:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have a bit of an outline on this Sidney Rhodes but would love to find out more about him.

Sidney Rhodes was born 14 March 1912 in Sculcoates.  The registration of his birth was delayed into the June Qtr.  His mother's maiden name was McQuade.  He died in Bridlington, E. Yorkshire in July of 1985.  Although it has been a while since I worked on this family, I remember reading somewhere that Sidney and his wife had two children, although I could be wrong.

- his mother's first name
- father's name
- date of parents' marriage
- date of his marriage to Elizabeth Gardiner (have been told that he married this woman.)
- children? -could be they are living in Bridlington?  Maybe that's why Sidney retired there.
- date of his death

I would be so grateful for any information on this man.

Many thanks,

Carleton
Ottawa, Canada


Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 15 January 13 16:37 GMT (UK)
A possibility for the parents marriage?

June qtr 1892
Hull district    vol 9d, page 404

Rhodes, John Thomas
+ and on the same page +
McQuade, Kate
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 15 January 13 16:40 GMT (UK)
Sidney's marriage:

September qtr 1934
Sculcoates district    vol 9d, page 336

Rhodes, Sidney
Gardiner, Elizabeth H W
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Jaytilson on Tuesday 15 January 13 16:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

I think this is Sidney Rhodes marriage to Elizabeth H. W. Gardiner

Sept. Q 1934 - Sculcoates, East Riding Yorkshire.

Also could these children  be this couples five daughters ? If they are it looks as though they were born before their marriage.

Same county as marriage for births - Sculcoates, North Riding.
Mothers maiden name Gardiner

Doris Rhodes      June Q. 1925
Annie I. Rhodes  March Q. 1927
Olive E. Rhodes  June Q. 1928
Lily C. Rhodes    March Q. 1929
Ivy Rhodes         June Q. 1930

Hope this helps,
Jay.
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Jaytilson on Tuesday 15 January 13 17:13 GMT (UK)

Another child ? - a son

Mothers maiden name Gardiner

 Anthony D. Rhodes

March Q. 1937  - Sculcoates, East Riding

Vol No. 9d   Page No. 257
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 15 January 13 17:22 GMT (UK)
carleton

Unless person at link is you, your research may help person posting rule in/out one of the Sidneys they have been researching:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-EAST-YORKS/2012-06/1338765990
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Carleton on Wednesday 16 January 13 03:38 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Many thanks for your replies.

KGarrad, I believe that the two marriages (names and dates) you sent are the correct ones.  I appreciate your help.

Jay, I doubt that the births of the five children you included in your reply belong to Sidney and Elizabeth Gardiner.  Sidney would have been only 13 yrs. old in 1925. I believe the same applies for the years 1927, 1928, 1929 and 1930.  Sidney would have been only 18 in 1930 so it's possible that the parents of these children belong to another Sidney Rhodes and yet another 'Gardiner'.

As for the birth of a son, Anthony D. Rhodes, this one is a possibility given the date of his marriage in 1934, but again, we don't know for sure.

I am not related to this Sidney Rhodes.  My interest is WW II related.  He was actually Sgt. Sidney Rhodes, Flight Eng. R.A.F.V.R.  He was one of two survivors of the first R.C.A.F. Pathfinder Squadron formed out of 156 Squadron, Group 8.  There were 7 men aboard this Lancaster III bomber PB477 when it was shot down over Rohrau, Germany the night of 02 January 1945 on a raid to Nuremberg.  Five of the crew died, including my uncle.  Sgt. Rhodes and one of the Canadians, W/O/1 D. G. Plyley were the only two survivors.  Both men were sucked out of the plane which exploded in mid-air and managed to parachute to safety.  Both spent approximately 5 1/2 months in Stalag Luft 1 as POWs until freed by the Russians around May 14, 1945.

I have been working on a report of PB477 for a number of months and have been successful in tracking down information on the crew members not only from a personal aspect but also to learn of previous squadrons these men served with.  Sidney Rhodes has been my only hang-up and difficult to research.  Had it not been for a document that I received from a relative of Plyley, I wouldn't even know at this point where Rhodes was from.  This hand-written document  is a list of all the POWs in Block 304, North Compound, Room 3, and gives Sgt. Rhodes' address as 112 Tanfield Grove, Bilton Grange, Hull, E. Yorkshire.

Between this address and his death in Bridlington in July of 1985, I would dearly love to make contact with a descendant of Sidney's.  There has to be somebody out there somewhere.

I have thought of sending for his records from the Archives in the U.K. which will cost me $95.00 CDN converted from 60£   I have been told that these records consist of only 4 pages....a lot of money for 4 pages.

Carleton

       
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Bee on Wednesday 16 January 13 20:55 GMT (UK)
Sidney's marriage:

September qtr 1934
Sculcoates district    vol 9d, page 336

Rhodes, Sidney
Gardiner, Elizabeth H W


Yorkshirebmd has slightly different entry

Sidney Rhodes married Christiana Gardiner in 1934 in St Peter, Drypool, Hull

Also John T Rhodes and Kate Mcquade married in St Marys, Hull

Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 16 January 13 21:33 GMT (UK)
Sidney's marriage:

September qtr 1934
Sculcoates district    vol 9d, page 336

Rhodes, Sidney
Gardiner, Elizabeth H W


Yorkshirebmd has slightly different entry

Sidney Rhodes married Christiana Gardiner in 1934 in St Peter, Drypool, Hull

Also John T Rhodes and Kate Mcquade married in St Marys, Hull


According to FreeBMD, and the GRO Indexes (I have checked the original images) Christiana Gardiner married a Frederick W French, while Elisabeth H W Gardiner married Sidney Rhodes.

By 1934 the GRO Indexes included the spouses surname.
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Bee on Wednesday 16 January 13 22:31 GMT (UK)



According to FreeBMD, and the GRO Indexes (I have checked the original images) Christiana Gardiner married a Frederick W French, while Elisabeth H W Gardiner married Sidney Rhodes.

By 1934 the GRO Indexes included the spouses surname.
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As both marriages took place at the same church in the same year, the only way to be certain would be to look at the parish register. The GRO indexes are transcriptions from the original register they could just as easily been mistranscribed as the entries on yorkshirebmd.
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 17 January 13 11:42 GMT (UK)
Hi...There is a researcher on GenesReunited.com that has matches for Sydney Rhodes and Elizabeth Gardiner born in Hull for those dates...you can carry out a free search but would need Membership to contact the researcher but it is very cheap at just under £10.00 per year.
Carol
Title: Re: SIDNEY RHODES, SCULCOATES, E. YORKSHIRE
Post by: Carleton on Thursday 17 January 13 15:39 GMT (UK)
To Bee & KGarrad,

Yes, the Yorkshire BMD site does have a different entry.  I had seen this earlier and was concerned that I didn't have the correct information regarding Sidney's marriage.  So, I wrote the E. Yorkshire register offiice some time ago and just yesterday received an answer from them.  The marriage indeed took place in Sept. 1934 between Sidney Rhodes and Elizabeth H W  Gardiner.  The complete entry corroborates the father of Sidney Rhodes' as John Thomas Rhodes.  Sidney's birth entry also states his parents as John Thomas Rhodes and Kate McQuade.  I feel very confident I have the correct information.

To Treetotal:  Yes, I have been in contact with the Genes Reunited researcher.  Thank you!

Again, I thank all of you for your time and effort....much appreciated.

Carleton