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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hertfordshire => England => Hertfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Ankaret on Monday 14 January 13 19:57 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for some local Watford, Hertfordshire knowledge. I have carefully researched my Dawes family tree through Deal in Kent to my 6th great grandpa Richard Dawes a Victualler. He was not born in that parish and I only seem to have two small clues as to a possible place of his birth. (The only date I definitely have is his Deal marriage of 1755.)
He has two brothers, William and John Dawes (at least). In William Dawes Will of 1761 also in Deal and a Victualler he names JOHN DAWES OF WATFORD in Hertford as a Labourer.
It's a long shot because Watford may not be their origins either, but during this time frame was Watford in any way a victualling route to the coast.... could anyone suggest a possible link or connection that might explain the distance split in this family?
Or does anyone know anything about the Dawes name in Watford at this time?
I would be most grateful for even a small snippet or thought. Best Regards. Ankaret.
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Hi
I don't know much about the Victualler's in Watford from that time frame but I'm sure there were plenty of Inns, I have at least 3 ancestors who were licencees in the early 1800's in Watford & the surrounding area. :)
From Family Search records there does appear to be a John Dawes in Watford, possibly 2 unless it was a second marriage...... although I can't find any marriages at the mo, however, John Dawes & Elizabeth had 2 children baptised at St Marys Watford, Mary 30 Sept 1746 & Elizabeth 20th May 1750.
John Dawes & Mary had 4 children baptised at St Marys, William 15th Feb 1756, Richard 18 Dec 1757, Thomas 2nd Dec 1759 & Ann 19 Dec 1762.
There is also a Joseph Dawes & Mary who have a Thomas baptised at St Marys 27th Mar 1750.
Looks a good probability that this is the John mentioned in your Williams Will.
Hope this is some help.
Maddie
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Maddie
Kind of you to reply. Thank you. I have been able to view some Wills from the Canterbury collection of the Dawes at Kent. Do you know how to do it for the Hertford (Watford) area? I would very much like to search for these persons you mention. I see on the National Archives there is a provision but Im obviously not hitting the right buttons. Anyone?
Thanks again Maddie. Ankaret.
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Hi
Snippet - Dawes Lane/Common in Sarratt is mentioned in 1684 [Mr Grove]
Snippet - There are plenty of Dawes in HALS Online Index but no obvious link with Kent ("London" yes)
nor indeed are there any Victuallers Recognizances listed in the name of Dawes (doesn't mean there aren't any)
Snippet - Search for Dawes here https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?formid=HALS_INDEXES
Herts and Kent are not alone in counties having many [some good] pubs/beerhouses/breweries.
[Even yours truly co-owned one until "recently"] ;D
Ray
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Hi Ankaret
There are only 3 Wills on the NA for Dawes in Herts that I can see & none for Watford.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/wills.htm
You may have more luck with HALS, the link Ray has provided. I wonder though, if John was a labourer would he have left a Will. :-\
Morning Ray. :)
Maddie
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Thank you folks for those points and important links. I spent hours on line last night. If this develops further I will let you know what I find. Ankaret
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Hi
" if John was a labourer would he have left a Will."
He would if he changed "direction" and tenanted the farm? [etc]
Ray
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Hi
More a query than notes . . . . .
Is there a link of Dawes to Benning?
Ray
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Ray
I'm not aware of any connection. But I'm in uncharted waters now the research for Dawes has spread out of the Kent scene. Ankaret.