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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: bobfilm on Monday 14 January 13 14:55 GMT (UK)
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Trying to find information on three photographers who seem to be at the
Glendale Studio in Maldon Essex
John Rayne –around 1880 - 1899
Walter Wren Gladwin - around 1886 – 1890
Hazeltine Frost- around 1910
Apart from mentions of photographs they had taken in National Archives, can find no reference to them living in Maldon or their families
Any leads most welcome ;)
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www.historicaldirectories.org has:-
Kelly's Directory 1894 John Rayne Photographer 8 Market Hill Maldon
Kelly's Directory 1914 Hazeltine Frost Photographer 8 Market Hill Maldon
Regards
Roger
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1901 census Has John Rayne, Photographer living at 8 Market Hill, Maldon. He was born in Scarborough in about 1864, His wife Josephine was born in about 1865 in Liverpool. His Mother in Law born in about 1844 in London was living with them, her name was Elizabeth Stodare.
1911 census Has JohnRayne...*
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Thanks Roger - have Kellys entries.
Thats a help antiqueone - thanks
;)
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1891 census for 8 Market Hill has Anna Gladwin,born 1860 Cousley Wood Sussex ,photographic artist,married with family,but no husband present.Also listed are Frederick(photographic artist,born 1867 Hammersmith) and Clara Southwell.
Regards
Roger
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John Raine / Rayne marriage to Josephine Caroline Stodare, shows her father as Joseph Stodare - Actor. I'm wondering if this is Joseph Colonel Stodare (28 June 1831 in Liverpool – 22 Oct 1866) a famous Victorian magician?
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1881 census has Walter(photographer) and Anna Gladwin at 23 Station Road,Croydon.Walter s given as born 1856 Tunbridge Wells.
Regards
Roger
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Thanks Roger
Again very helpful. All I have to do is find 'Hazeltine Frost'
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As it appears such an unusual first name,perhaps the Kelly's Directory entry is a business partnership name between Mr Hazeltine and Mr Frost.
Regards
Roger
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The only other possibility I can think of is that the name reflects a marriage.There is an 1849 marriage of William Frost to Hannah Hazeltine.Perhaps they had a son who used his parents names as a business name.The timescale seems just about possible.
Regards
Roger
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Good Afternoon, Bob,
I have a little more on Mr Gladwin, which I'll send you, but I'm afraid I've lost your e-mail address! Hopefully you still have mine, so drop me a line - I've heard from Maldon District Museum.
Regards
Chris
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Re Hazeltine Frost- around 1910
Now found his name is William Hazeltine Frost (b: abt 1852 in Cavendish Square, London)
Married to Edith Eleanor Page (b: abt 1877 in Maidstone, Kent).
His father was William Blackman Frost, who died before his sons marraige in 1892.
Still trying to find family prior to marriage - Any leads ?
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Grays Inn Road Holy Trinity
1861 Jan 20
Eva Hannah, d/o William Blackman & Hannah FROST, 5 Guildford Street, piano Forte maker, born 1859 Feb 9
Eliza, d/o ditto, born 1850 Aug 6
Henry Blackman, s/o ditto, born 1856 Aug 18
William, s/o ditto, born 1852 Apr 13
William Blackman FROST married Hannah HAZELTINE 23 Oct 1849 St James Westminster.
WBF death registered Apr 1859 Islington, London
Ian C
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1871 - RG10/215/75/2
5 Guildford St, St Pancras
Hannah FROST, head wid 57, Lodging house keeper, born Surrey
William FROST, son unm 18, Photographer's clerk, born London
+ lodgers
1881 - RG11/1787/16/26
13 Mersea Rd, Colchester
William FROST, head mar 29, Photographic artiste, born Middlesex, London
Emma FROST, wife mar 26, born Yorks, Bradford
1891 - RG12/419/93/5
37 Gipsy ??, Norwood
William FROST, Lodger s 39, Photographer (Master), born London Marylebone
Wonder what happened to Emma. His 1892 marriage has him as a bachelor
Ian C
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Hannah FROST was at 5 Guildford St in 1861, but with only two of the four children, Eliza and Henry. In 1881 she was at 5 Guildford St, with Eliza now married with children living with her.
William and Hannah were in Alfred Villa in Battersea in 1851. He was a Piano forte maker. Eliza aged 8mths was with them.
Ian C
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Ian you are a star - Thanks so much for the detailed information. Did I miss something as I can't find when/where William Blackman Frost was born (I think his father was also a William).
Regards - Bobfilm :)
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Hi There
I'm a newbie to this site. I'm interested in researching my family (my name Archive Jack is a joke with my cousin), and also early film-making in Hove.
I have a copy of a family photo, taken around 1903 (from the apparent ages of the children in it and the knowledge of their birth years). I was researching it and came across this thread. I don't know if this info is useful or new to you - it's nothing to do with Maldon, but here goes:
The reason I came across your thread is that the name on the photo frame is:
Hazeltine Frost - and the address is: 1, Princes Avenue, 72, Royal Parade, Muswell Hill, N. (see attachment if I've done it right!)
I'd be confident that the name reflects either or both a marriage and a business partnership - and that they had more than one studio - with the Malden one run by a manager, hence no record of a Hazeltine living in Malden?
(My particular interest, Esme Collings, had up to 5 studios in different places, and partnerships with various people over time, including William Frieze-Green.)
There is a website I found for London photographers - but I'm afraid I couldn't find Hazeltine in it - https://www.photolondon.org.uk - and the contact page seems not to be working. I did find a similar directory for the whole of the UK but stupidly forgot to note it down.
Best wishes!
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Me again
One more thing - link to Alamy library image with information, taken of All Saints Church Malden "Photographed by Hazeltine Frost, Glendale Studio, Maldon"
https://www.alamy.com/towns-of-new-england-and-old-england-ireland-and-scotland-connecting-links-between-cities-and-towns-of-new-england-and-those-of-the-same-name-in-england-ireland-and-scotland-containing-narratives-descriptions-and-many-views-some-done-from-old-prints-also-much-matter-pertaining-to-the-founders-and-settlers-of-new-england-and-to-their-memorials-on-both-sides-of-the-atlantic-malden-massachusetts-117-photographed-by-hazeltine-frost-glendale-studio-maldon-kindness-ian-forbes-robertson-esq-all-saints-church-maldon-essex-england-in-the-graveyard-of-this-church-ue-the-remains-of-image338384497.html
Gives a business name and a studio name. Hope these physical items are of interest.
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Thanks for updated information and link
Regards - Bob
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Hi Bob
One last thing (off topic) - I notice your interests, and here is the website and book I find very useful for Sussex/Brighton - very early moving pictures - 1896:
Lots of info
https://www.photohistory-sussex.co.uk/index.htm
https://www.brightonfilm.com/
Info-rich, compendium book by David Fisher
https://www.brightonfilm.com/cinema-by-sea/index.htm
(Esme Collings filmed the world's first blue movie in Hove.)
Brilliant 30 minute 1960 TV programme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHv3ucZvHqo
Best wishes
James
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Hi Bob
One last thing (off topic) - I notice your interests, and here is the website and book I find very useful for Sussex/Brighton - very early moving pictures - 1896:
Lots of info
https://www.photohistory-sussex.co.uk/index.htm
https://www.brightonfilm.com/
Info-rich, compendium book by David Fisher
https://www.brightonfilm.com/cinema-by-sea/index.htm
(Esme Collings filmed the world's first blue movie in Hove.)
Brilliant 30 minute 1960 TV programme. (Wrong link initially)
https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=VN6JXvmNIqXjxgPg9J6ADg&q=%22James+Williamson%22+hove+death&oq=%22James+Williamson%22+hove+death&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoCCAA6BAgAEA1KCQgXEgUxMi02MUoICBgSBDEyLTZQoYABWMmHAWCiiQFoAXAAeACAAUKIAdsCkgEBNpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwj5h_els9HoAhWlsXEKHWC6B-AQ4dUDCAs&uact=5
Best wishes
James
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Hi,
8 Market Hill Maldon is now a very old fashioned cobblers, just big enough for 1 person to enter, the house looks quite large, front door in the middle windows either side, the cobblers is attached to the right of the property, I could just see it as a photographers.
It's called Frostick TJ & is on Google if you want to have a look.
Missmuddle
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I visited this shop on Saturday, the current owner said after the Photographers it was a gun shop for a while, & now a cobblers. Lovely shop to go in proper old fashioned with lots of memorabilia. On the wall he had a letter from Hazeltine Frost dated July 1908 about his handing over the business to John Rayne Photographer who in a previous employ had been photographer to the King.
I hope I have attached correctly.
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Hello,
I am trying to locate a photograph or photographs taken by Walter W. Gladwin of the balloon that Joseph Simmons and Sir Claude de Crespigny crossed the English Channel in on 30 July 1883. According to the newspaper advert he sold these at his studio in Maldon.
Thanks in advance.