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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: chrisseyw on Monday 14 January 13 14:35 GMT (UK)
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thankyou for all the help i have received in regard to my grt grt grt grandfather james lafferty
i wonder if anyone could help me with where exactly tamlacht o crilley is and what it is known by now i know i might sound a bit thick but im utterley cluelss as to which parish records may be held
many thanks
chrissey
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I'm a bit puzzled as I can't see a previous mention of James Lafferty here :-\
Tamlaght O'Crilly is still a parish just outside Kilrea.
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it was quiet a while ago and i got some wonderful help at the time thanks again for the help today i have had a break from all this but think its time i tried to get as far back as i can
chrissey
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You've only 18 posts and none on Londonderry board- was it under a previous username?
There is this topic on Antrim board- username chrissey- but says James Lafferty born 1817 Antrim:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,103957.msg446136.html#msg446136
also a duplicate topic here on Antrim board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,253324.msg1427384.html#msg1427384
And finally I find a topic by chrissey for a James Lafferty on Derry board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,280174.0.html
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yes it was a while ago and thanks to the help i received i found his daughters marrige to a william williamson in tamlcht o crilley in 1859
the family moved between ireland and greenock like yo yos
im trying to trace the family back a bit more i belive james s father was called daniel but i cant find anything about him
chrissey
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Other than a daughter's marriage in Tamlaght O'Crilly is there any other reason to suppose that James Lafferty lived there? Remember that marriage certificates list residence of bride and groom at time of wedding which may not be where they were born or where their parents lived.
According to earlier information you posted (under chrissey)-
i belive my grt grt grt grandfather james lafferty was born in derry in 1817. i have him listed as marrying ann hill about 1840. he died in greenock in 1862 his age given as 45 which would put the year of birth as correct. i bleive his parents to be daniel lafferty and deborah williamson.
he had a son james born in antrim. and a daughter deborah williamson
Tamlaght O'Crilly is not far from the River Bann which is the boundary between counties Londonderry and Antrim. I't quite possible that the family lived in Antrim and it was only Deborah who was in Tamlaght O'Crilly. (I did mention this in 2008 on previous topic)
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i found the family listed on griffins valuation living ;)at killymuck glebe tamlacht o crilley so i assumed that was the family home at the time of the marrige
i also found that the family was known as laverty as well as lfferty so i suppose that was the way the name was written down by the pronunciation
william williamson was also listed as living at the same address
was killymuck glebe a street or a farm im completely at a loss to be honest
chrissey
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I think you need to be very, very careful here about jumping to conclusions.
Yes, Lafferty will probably have may spelling variations as most writing was done phoentically by how a word sounded.
Killymuck Glebe (glebe meaning lands belonging to the Established Church i.e. Church of Ireland) is the name of a townland in the civil parish of Tamlaght O'Crilly. In the countryside we only got road names about 40 years ago- previously the only 'address' would be the townland.
Griffith's valuation will list names of occupier (head of household) in a townland but just because you found a James Lafferty does not mean he's the one you are looking for and even if the family did live in that townland the James Lafferty listed could be your James' uncle, grandfather, cousin, etc.).
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Here's an index to 1831 census for County Londonderry- lots of Laffertys. Don't confuse the Parish of Tamlaght Finlagan (Ballykelly) with Tamlaght O'Crilly.
http://www.billmacafee.com/1831census.htm
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many thanks only two showing for tamlacht o crilley so ill have tosoldier on
chrissey
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Hi Chrissy W,
I believe I'm related to the Williamsons of Tamlaght O'Crilly. It'd be great to share info. Best Wishes. T.