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Title: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: nkbauer on Friday 11 January 13 21:05 GMT (UK)
James Allan was born in 1864 Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, son of John and Margaret Allan. He came to the USA in 1888. His wife Jean F. Allan ( MS unknown at present) stated on census forms that she came to the USA in 1891. In the 1930 US census they had been married for 38 years and were living in San Francisco. They were there as well in 1920, 1910 and 1900 but not always at the same address in SF. James ran a wholesale butchershop. I cannot find them in the 1940 census. I tried to search for them in the California Death Index 1930-1939 found at Familysearch.com but the relevant pages seems to be missing.
I would appreciate any help
Kind regards, Nan
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 11 January 13 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Nan,

It looks as if Jean was Jean /Harvie (rather than Harvice)  The first born son was James Harvey Crawford Allan - here is his marriage in 1914:-

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XL6Q-2YY

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: shellyesq on Friday 11 January 13 22:11 GMT (UK)
You can try looking in city directories, which sometimes have a date of death or list the wife as a widow.  This can help narrow down the time frame.  There are some free San Francisco city directories here - http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/Dir1Win.shtml
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 11 January 13 22:12 GMT (UK)
This was the death of the second born son which confirms Jeans maiden name:-

John Allan  Birth Date: 24 Jun 1894  California
Died 28 Oct 1946  San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name Harvie  and Father Allan

and also James Harvie Crawford Allan  Birth Date: 16 Sep 1892 California
Died 25 Mar 1951 San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Harvie  - Father Allan

daughter Grace Jean Allan  - Birth Date: 30 Jun 1902  California
DeDied 28 Dec 1993 San Joaquin
Mother's Maiden Name: Harvie.

son Douglas N Allan  - Birth Date 10 Dec 1895  California
Died 29 Dec 1970  San Francisco California


Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: shellyesq on Friday 11 January 13 22:16 GMT (UK)
I see a death for Jeanne Allan on the death index on familysearch.org.  It is on pg. 24 of the 1930-1939 records covering Aabel, Arnold-Hetterman, John.  The place of death was San Francisco (the code number for SF is 90), and the date of death was 24 Oct. 1932.  There are a few James Allans listed on the same page, and two died in San Francisco.  The most likely match seems to be the one who died 9 Sep. 1933, as his spouse's first initial was listed as J.
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: nkbauer on Saturday 12 January 13 15:55 GMT (UK)
Sandra, thank you for finding Jean's maiden name. I have just started to research this part of my family tree. Previously my research was done on closer family members in Scotland. Jean's husband James is a first cousin 2x removed. I did have some information on their children from various census years but not their DOD.
Shellyesq, thank you for the link to the city directories. I have found more information there for James, Jean and their children. I fell really foolish that I didn't find the DOD for Jean and James in the California death index. I was even on p 24 BUT didn't drag the page far enough to one side to realize that there were 2 more pages from the index there. I had never used the index before and assumed that there were only 2 images per page. Lesson learned. Thank you.
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 January 13 16:08 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome.

This was the wife of Douglas Norman Allan.

Elvira R Allan [Elvira R Hufschmidt] 
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1898  California  and Died 5 Jun 1989  San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Gerber  - Father Hufschmidt

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 January 13 16:10 GMT (UK)
Daughter of Douglas and Elvira

Carol A Barthold - (Carol A Allan)
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1925  California  and died 14 Jan 1985  San Mateo
Mother's Maiden Name: Huffschmidt  and Father Allan

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 January 13 16:21 GMT (UK)
Wife of John  Allan - Florence

Florence E Allan [Florence E Widner] 
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1891  Washington and died 9 Dec 1940  San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Hunt and Father Widner.

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 January 13 16:27 GMT (UK)
Ruth Estelle Allan - daughter of John and Florence

Ruth Estelle Herzstein born 25 April 1925 and died 13 January 2012 aged 86 years
Obituary Published San Jose Mercury News/San Mateo County Times on January 18, 2012
Will send copy by pm

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: nkbauer on Saturday 12 January 13 16:36 GMT (UK)
Thank you again Sandra. I really appreciate your efforts on my behalf. I can tell that you really enjoy helping others. Have you completed your family tree or is it an ongoing effort. I was going to research only my direct line but have enjoyed the research so much that I have started to branch out further.
Kind regards,
Nan
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 January 13 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Nan,

Mostly all back into the 1700's or some slightly before but every so often there is always a little more detail which adds to the story.  "Addictive"  ;D

All the best
Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 13 January 13 22:58 GMT (UK)
Wife of James Harvie Crawford Allan - Ethel

Ethel Marie Allan - [Ethel Marie Johnson] 
Birth Date: 20 Apr 1893  California  - Died 30 Mar 1989 Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Rundquist and Father Johnson.

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 13 January 13 23:00 GMT (UK)
Ethel M. Allan
20 April 1893 and died 30 March 1989
Last Residence: 94903  San Rafael, Marin, California.
SSN was issued in California (1967)

Sandra
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan
Post by: RJ137 on Thursday 01 December 16 15:22 GMT (UK)

son Douglas N Allan  - Birth Date 10 Dec 1895  California
Died 29 Dec 1970  San Francisco California


Douglas's DC:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iyo/

Funeral Home DC: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iyp/

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iyq/

Funeral Home Notice: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iyr/
Title: Re: what happened to James Allan and his wife Jean F. Allan. Completed with thanks
Post by: nkbauer on Friday 02 December 16 13:27 GMT (UK)
thank you for those links RJ137. Much apparecicated