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Title: Emma who?
Post by: croxia on Thursday 10 January 13 16:05 GMT (UK)
Can anyone decipher the surname of the informant on the death certificate? I read it as Nealby, but having searched the 1841 census and BMD's, including variants on the name, I cannot establish who she is. The death certificate is for Nicholas Jenkins, correct spelling Jenking, who died of consumption at the King and Queen Dock Rotherhithe September 8 1841. He was 35 and a Shipwright.

Thank you
Croxia
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Thursday 10 January 13 16:37 GMT (UK)
Is the third word perhaps laundress?
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: josey on Thursday 10 January 13 16:39 GMT (UK)
It's fourteen.

Looks like Nealby to me too. Are there any other capital Ns on the certificate?

There are Nealbys in Rotherhithe [baptism of a William in 1811 son of John & Ann] also Nielbys in Southwark on 1841 census; can't find an Emma.

Josey
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: croxia on Thursday 10 January 13 16:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you Mike and Josey....the third word is "fourteenth", which is the date of the death registration. Yes there is another N on the cert. for Nicholas. I will try and post that section, bear with me as I am not very good at this copying and pasting business! Will do it later when under supervision of my son.

Croxia
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: veeblevort on Thursday 10 January 13 16:52 GMT (UK)

The letter that looks like an 'l' is short enough to be a 't'.

I'm thinking _eatly or _eatby, and possibly starting with a very bad 'wh'.

vv.
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: croxia on Thursday 10 January 13 16:56 GMT (UK)
Josey as I posted my reply your revised version came up! Thank you for the information I hadn't been unable to find any Nealby/Neilby so will now look in more detail at the 1841 census. Still puzzled by Emma's prescence at the death of Nicholas though.

Thank you veeblevort "wh" is a possibility.

Croxia
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: Alexander. on Thursday 10 January 13 17:00 GMT (UK)
I agree it looks like Nealby.

I've looked through all of Lavender Lane, Rotherhithe on the 1841 census (a few months before the death), but I couldn't see anyone with a similar name. For anyone else who wants to check, the reference for Lavender Lane is HO107/1067, book 7, folios 15-17.

Alexander
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: MaureeninNY on Thursday 10 January 13 17:13 GMT (UK)
There's a baptism 1816 Rotherhithe for Emma NEATBY  dau of John and Ann.

Maureen
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: Alexander. on Thursday 10 January 13 17:20 GMT (UK)
I think you've got her, Maureen.

That Emma is on the 1851 census in Rotherhithe with her parents (see HO107/1583, folio 165, page 58). Her father was a boatbuilder (that fits with what you know about Mr Jenking). I can't see them in 1841 though.

Alexander
Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: veeblevort on Thursday 10 January 13 17:28 GMT (UK)
1841 Census, Lavender Lane Rotherhithe Surrey had two resident Emmas
but they don't appear to be relevant. No marriage found for the older
one between the census and Nicholas' death:

HO107/1067 7/15 24 Schedule 1991 - Emma Wittaker, 18.
Same reference, Schedule 1993 - Emma Hainson, 14.

vv.

Title: Re: Emma who?
Post by: croxia on Thursday 10 January 13 21:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your replies they are most helpful. If Emma came from a boatbuilding family that certainly fits, I will investigate further. Nicholas married Mary Paddy Trevarthen; they were both from Cornwall and Jenking, Paddy and Trevarthen were Cornish boatbuilders. After Nicholas died Mary and the two surviving sons moved back to Cornwall. Nicholas and Mary are my 3xgreat grandparents. As you can see I have attached another piece of the cert. which I feel confirms that Emma's surname does look like it begins with an N.
Once again thank you all for your help and information, it is much appreciated.

Croxia