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Title: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 08 January 13 23:52 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann NAIRN, aged 71, died 29th December 1931 at Farm Cottages, Budle

Northumberland records this recent are new territory for me. Could anyone advise if she would be likely to have been buried in a churchyard or were they getting a bit full by then and perhaps the burial would have been at a civil cemetery, maybe North Sunderland? (which, as far as I can tell, may be the nearest).

Thanks

Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: diddymiller on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:11 GMT (UK)
is this Budle  near Bamborough? if so nowhere near sunderland.

nothing on the NBI2

Diddy
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks for checking the National Burial Index.

North Sunderland is just over 3 miles south of Bamburgh.

Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: diddymiller on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:20 GMT (UK)
apologies - i didn't broaden the map out far enough!!

Diddy
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: senteacher on Wednesday 09 January 13 22:01 GMT (UK)
Have you tried Northumberland County Council website? The following may be of some help
http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=3375
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 11 January 13 11:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks senteacher, will look at that and make enquiries.


Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: christiek on Thursday 14 March 13 15:16 GMT (UK)
If you want me to go and have a hunt for you I can, I live in the area.
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 14 March 13 21:39 GMT (UK)
If you want me to go and have a hunt for you I can, I live in the area.

That's a very kind offer, thank you. If ever I get a definite idea of which cemetery I may take you up on it, when the weather is perhaps more conducive to wandering around graveyards :-) For the moment though it could be anywhere in the area and there are a LOT of folk buried around there so its a needle in a haystack job.

If you do happen on NAIRN or MAVIN whilst looking at gravestones in the area, I would be interested in hearing about them, but only if you are wandering for your own research and stumble upon some.

thank you

Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: christiek on Thursday 14 March 13 22:02 GMT (UK)
Boo,

Something has occurred to me. I was in Bamburgh churchyard recently doing research of my own. If they lived in Budle it is entirely possible they were buried in Bamburgh church. My husband had relatives still being buried there in the 1980's. The graves are a motley bunch but quite easy to navigate because they are more or less sectioned according to age, the older graves from the 1700's at the front of the church yard and the newer ones towards the back of the church grounds. My husband is pretty sure that if your relative died in Budle that it would be Bamburgh churchyard they'd be buried in, unless they had a family connection elsewhere. 

On most documentation I've seen they list Budle as part of Bamburgh, it's literally a couple of minutes up the road and Bamburgh people tend to be buried in Bamburgh and Seahouses people buried in Seahouses. Both villages see themselves as completely seperate cultural identities and even now, villagers of both are proud if they can say several generations came from their particular village. My FIL has always been proud of saying they are "Bamburgh folk". Another area maybe to look is Belford as well, but I don't know when they stopped burying people in St Marys Church and moved to the civil cemetary.

And seriously, if you find out what churchyard I really don't mind - we live within 5 miles of Budle as it happens. The apples never fell far from this family tree!
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: christiek on Thursday 14 March 13 22:08 GMT (UK)
Also, do you have a more specific address than farm cottages, Budle that could narrow it down? Neighbouring addresses perhaps?
My husband says he's about 70% sure where they are and that they are still there if you wanted us to take a photograph while we are pandering about. My husband is a keen amateur photographer so he really doesn't mind.
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 14 March 13 22:23 GMT (UK)
Bamburgh is a definite possibility, they were married there, their children were baptised there , but as far as I am aware the Bamburgh burials after 1902 haven't been deposited with the archives so its difficult for me to find out.

The Mavins were joiners/cartwrights living at Spindlestone Mill/ Waren Mill Cottages for many years. Mary Ann Mavin  married James Nairn in 1888,  other than the address on the death cert for her in 1931 which says Farm Cottages, Budle I don't know the location, her death was registered by her son Robert who was still living at Waren Mill Cottages.

'If' you are going to Bamburgh churchyard anyway and 'if' you stumble across any Mavins or Nairns headstones then yes, I would be really grateful for any info or photos you could provide. But please don't catch cold on my behalf! Both of you 'have' to wrap up warm :-)
<I'm a Granny, I worry, its my job>

Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: christiek on Thursday 14 March 13 23:04 GMT (UK)
Lol - Boo, my husband has worked at Waren Mill and my SIL often works at Spindlestone.
I'd say definately if their children were baptised in Bamburgh it is highly likely that they are buried in Bamburgh churchyard. We'll go and have a look for you at the beginning of next week it's absolutely no problem. I'm getting to the stage where I'm having to pay for records now, so my own research has ground to a little bit of a standstill at the moment and two weeks till I'm at Uni, I've got time to help other people out  ;D
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 14 March 13 23:29 GMT (UK)
Yes, certs are expensive, but sometimes needed to verify what we have found, best to be sure 'before' you go further back that you are on the right track.

There are alternatives though. For marriages, if you can identify the church and date you can usually get a copy from the parish register microfilm at the archives, which is about as authentic as it comes. Its the source document , the one that was written at the time of the marriage so will have the good stuff like original signatures. Once I have the right info, I order them from the archives. a photocopy from a microfilm costs about £1 plus postage  (no postage if you can go and collect them, but the postage probably works out cheaper than petrol if you aren't really close to the archives) so lots cheaper than a civil registration certificate at a minimum of £9.25 a go.

Church baptism registers sometimes (though not always) give birth dates as well as baptism dates so they are a good substitute for a birth cert.
Burials, again 'sometimes' give dates of death, but usually, if its not in my 'direct line' I settle for knowing when they were buried, as they will most likely have died within a few days of that and I have to budget for my hobby, as we all do.

Boo
Title: Re: Where is the most likely burial place?
Post by: senteacher on Tuesday 23 April 13 17:49 BST (UK)
What a small world we live in. My step-grandmother's grandfather was born at Spindlestone Mill in 1832.