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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: cg on Wednesday 07 July 04 21:53 BST (UK)
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Hi,
i'm looking for "Glover" of New Ferry,Wirral.
my grandad was born about 1900--1901, he was Edward Glover,i think his fathers name was George,can't be certain, grandad married Florence Louise Churchill,probably 1920s as my dad was born 1925. Any info on any Glovers in the area would be appreciated, many thanks to anyone who can help.
chris. ::)http://
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Hi Chris
When you are certain of the names and ages and where they were born and married I can look back for you on the censuses, but only from 1901
Try this site it is very good for Cheshire BMD lookups and you can purchase the certificates from it. Get back to us if you have any more info.
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
regards
peterbennett
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hi peter,
sorry i havn't been back for a while, when i get a brick wall, i knock off for a bit then try again, so here i am!! :D
i have recently found out that my nan: florence louise churchill was born in bexhill sussex on 27/7/1901
granddad: edward glover was born 13/1/1900-1 new ferry, i am almost sure his fathers name was george.
nan and granddad were married in new ferry, i think it was st. marks church, they died some years ago so i can't ask them!!
hope this helps? if not,-----not to worry.
thanks for your help.
chris. :P
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Hi Chris
If your grandfather was born on the date you suggest then this is the only possibility for him as detailed in the 1901 census, you should endeavor to find a birth or marriage certificate of course to verify his fathers name.
Isaac C Glover 36 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head brewer employer Great Crosby Lancashire
Adeline Glover 33 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Great Crosby Lancashire
James Glover 9 Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Son Great Crosby Lancashire
William Glover 8 Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Son Great Crosby Lancashire
Dorothy M Glover 6 Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Daughter Great Crosby Lancashire
Kathleen V Glover 3 Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Daughter Great Crosby Lancashire
Edward Glover 3 months Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Son Great Crosby Lancashire
Annie Callwood 55 Great Crosby, Lancashire, England Servant cook Great Crosby Lancashire
Mabel Jackson 8 Bolton, Lancashire, England Visitor Great Crosby Lancashire
Maggie Young 23 Northwich, Cheshire, England Servant housemaid Great Crosby Lancashire
Jermima A Anderson 23 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Servant nurse Great Crosby Lancashire
Great Crosby
Blundell Sands St Nicholas
RG13/3445 folio 132
West Derby Lancashire
Once the fathers name has been verified it should not be to difficult to trace the families back through the various census years.
please get back to us
peterbennett
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hi peter,
i have'nt been back for a while,but here goes,
i have found out that my grandfathers father was definitly called george, i have looked on the 1901 census for them and the only one i can find is, they are living on a barge! i don't think it is them as it says edward was 18.
i found out that george was a captain on a barge[or master]
i also found that they lived in beaconsfield rd new ferry, but still i can't find them there!!
any help? please.
chris.
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Hi Chris
There is something amiss with your information.
Can you tell me where you have obtained it from please ?
Is it from BMD certificates or from a family member, where did the address of Beaconsfield Road come from and when did they live there.
How did you find out that your ggrandfather was a master on a barge ?
Have you verified all the names as being their registered birth names.
peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
i got my info from my auntie,[grandads daughter]she confirmed his name for me but she does'nt know his wifes name, she said george was a master on a barge and that they lived in Beaconsfield Rd New Ferry but she did'nt say what year, she and my dad used to visit them there they were born 1925 & 1928, so i presume it was around about then.
Chris.
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Hi Chris
The problem I have in making a start is finding a birth for Edward Glover 1900/1901 in New Ferry or in Birkenhead.
Either he wasn't registered Edward or his birth name was not Glover, this is why its important for you to see certificates.
Have you seen a birth certificate for your father, from what you say I am assuming his name is Glover and his mothers maiden name was Churchill ? and yet when searching the GRO index for 1924/5/6 there are no male Glovers born to a mother named Churchill nor are there any females ( your aunt) in 1828. ???
peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
no, i'have'nt seen my dads birth cert. he died many years ago, and i don't think my mother kept it.
many thanks for your help, i won't give up tho! i will keep searching, i won't be beat!!!!
i will come back if i find any more details.
Chris.
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Hi Peter,
i have obtained my grandparents marriage cerificate from my aunt, they were married in St Marks church New Ferry on 19th April 1924, now---granddads age on the cert is 27, so that makes him born in 1897 by my reckoning, i never knew he was 4yrs older than my nan! thought he was born 1900-01, anyway---that's part of the brickwall knocked down!!
i'm not sure "were" he was born,my aunt doesn't seem to know.
his father's name was definatley George, it's on the cert!
can you help--------please.
chris.
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Hi
From the marriage certificate can you give me father Georges occupation and I will see if I can find him in 1901. Also the witness details.
As I explained peviously there is no birth registerd for your Edward Glover in the Wirral area. This means he was born elswhere or under another name.
This is a difficult one but I would strongly suggest you do search for your fathers birth/marriage certificates https://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/index.html
You need to confirm what your aunt has told you and the certs are the only way.
This from the 1901 census fits some of the referances you have given but is far from conclusive but worth saving.
RG13/3470/f131 Kirkdale West Derby on the barge Eviline
father Edward
son Edward born Runcorn 1898.
peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
George was a bargeman,so was Edward.
the witness details are John William Archibald [surname hard to read but looks like Archibald] and Deborah Mary Churchill.
thank you so much for your help.
chris.
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I do not know if the following will help
My kinswoman Anne Shaw of Wirksworth married Stephen Glover of Derby a Printer and Publisher/Author of historic books re The History of Derbyshire and other such works..After giving birth to one child namely Stephen Shaw Glover in 1817 Anne died and Stephen married again to Anne Milnes in 1819 They had children Francis Milnes Glover William Glover and then moved to Moreton The Wirral where John Edward Glover, Emma Jane and Edward Glover were born..Stephen senior continued to write books from Moreton buried in the Church there 1870 Could the George you mention be son of one of the sons of Stephen Glover ?
Regards Stuart G Flint
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thanks for your help Stuart,
but i don't think they belong to me :(
i have recently found that they came from Wigan,
i know they did'nt come from Morton,
they were barge people,granddad worked on them all his life,
it's a family tradition working on the river.
i have sent for his birth cert,and i am almost sure it is him.
Chris.
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Hi Chris
I live in New Ferry ... Beaconsfield road is a two minute walk from me and I pass St Marks (or Marsksies Church as they call it round here) Church everyday ... if you ever want a photo, give me a shout.
Regards
;D