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Title: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 06 January 13 17:12 GMT (UK)
my ggg grandfather james silver was the head of a family that owned a pub in loughrea as late as 1911. dont know when it went out of the family, would liek to find that out. in the 1870 directory of loughrea he is listed as a publican.

would also like to find out his fathers name... he married bridget connor/s (1837-1918).



Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 06 January 13 17:22 GMT (UK)
His marriage certificate should list father's name and occupation. The 1911 census asked married women who many years married. Also, working around date of birth for eldest child will narrow down the date.
The civil registration index is online at www.familysearch.org and several of the children are also listed there.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: heywood on Sunday 06 January 13 17:24 GMT (UK)
Hello

Family Search has a death for a James Silver in 1898, Loughrea. Would this be him?

regards
heywood
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 06 January 13 17:31 GMT (UK)
yep he died in 1898...i have a photo of his gravestone.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: heywood on Sunday 06 January 13 17:35 GMT (UK)
Elsewhere there is a reference to this man having a father James from Rathbaun.

Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 06 January 13 18:59 GMT (UK)
Thom's 1930 lists a Mary Anne Silvers, vintner with an address at West Bridge, Loughrea.

In 1938 there's an Elizabeth Silvers, vintner at West Bridge.


S.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 06 January 13 19:05 GMT (UK)
would you have a link to the 1930 directory or the 1938 reference?
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 06 January 13 19:08 GMT (UK)
no link involved - I have the actual directories in front of me.


S.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 06 January 13 19:10 GMT (UK)
do you know if the pub continues in the silver name or passes to another?
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 06 January 13 19:12 GMT (UK)
I've posted the complete details listed - the principle occupant/business owners are listed.

it looks to me that it may have passed down another generation between 1930 and '38


S.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 06 January 13 19:13 GMT (UK)
elizabeth was a sister of mary annes. there was only one male silver heir and he emigrated. i think the current owners are kellys, and possibly related
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Monday 14 January 13 22:17 GMT (UK)
i have found out James Silvers father was also James and they were from Rathbaun in Ardrahan parish near Loughrea.

James senior was born probably around 1805-1815, and therefore im presuming the james silver in the 1826 rathbaun tithes is likely not him but his father thus the grandfather of james born 1843 and my ggggg grandfather.

would like to know the origin of the Silver name.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: sakdolan on Tuesday 12 November 13 09:39 GMT (UK)
I wonder is it possible that John Silver (b.1838) from Carrabane, Loughrea (modern Kilconierin parish) and later of Ogilby Street, Woolwich is also related. He was a fine soldier (served in India) and the Silver surname wasn't that prominent around Loughrea so one never knows...
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: gavster1982 on Sunday 17 November 13 21:49 GMT (UK)
I wonder is it possible that John Silver (b.1838) from Carrabane, Loughrea (modern Kilconierin parish) and later of Ogilby Street, Woolwich is also related. He was a fine soldier (served in India) and the Silver surname wasn't that prominent around Loughrea so one never knows...


I would like to know more about john silver.
Title: Re: james silver 1843-1898 loughrea
Post by: sakdolan on Sunday 17 November 13 22:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Gavster,

Don't know how much more I can tell you tbh. The parish in question has a huge history in terms of providing Soldiers (including a VC winner) and John Silver had many fellow Parishioners let alone hundreds of fellow countymen (see aughty.org/pdf/SEGAHS_nl_spring2013.pdf) out there in India with him. His records are available in the National Archives. The story of Galwaymen in the British Army is one which is only now getting sufficient attention.

We're also currently studying those from the South-East Galway who fought in the great war and if you've any interest or wish to contribute, please contact us on facebook.com/SEGAHS. We've also interesting bits and bieces which you'll hopefully enjoy if your ancestors were from South-East Galway. And if you've any questions, just mail us and we'll try to help.

Regards,

S.