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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: Briellen on Sunday 06 January 13 02:42 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for details on Archibald Scott 22 January 1681–1683 to 1768. He died in Hopsrigg, Dalgarnock, Dumfries, Scotland.
He was married to Margaret Cransten/Cranston/Cranstoun 1697-30 June 1758. She died in Enzieholm, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries.
They had a son James Scott 1729-1764 and his son was Captain James Scott 1764-1805.
I have looked under different variations of the name. Following on from family naming traditions I also tried James and/or Walter Archibald Scott to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Although nothing seems to appear on Scotland's People, I did find this on family search.
Archbald Scot, baptism 6 May 1683
LANGHOLM, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
father's name John Scot
Colin
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Hi Colin,
Thanks heaps for the info. I did try Scotland People plus a few other sites. I will follow it up and see where it leads me :)
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The dates you provide suggest that you have the inscriptions from the three graves at Ewes nos. 162, 163 and 164. I can provide more information about Mary Beattie who married Captain James Scott - if you wish. You show Hopsrigg as being in Dalgarnoch. Hopsrigg is/was in the parish of Westerkirk and in the village of Bentpath close to the parish church.
Reiver
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Hi Reiver,
Thanks heaps. I will change the Dalgarnoch details.
I have Mary Beatties details up to her grandparents William Beattie (no spouse details), William Blake and Isabella Biggar. Anything more would be great.
I also have the details on her husband Captain James Scott.
Briellen
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Hi Briellen
I have something slightly diffferent from you. Mary Beattie's (= James Scott) parents were William Beattie and Ann Scott. Somewhere or other I have info. on Ann Scott's family. However William's parents I have as Walter Beattie and Marion Black (possibly Blake). I too have her parents as William Blake and Isabella Biggar.
I do not have any parents for Walter Beattie. I have a theory after many years thinking about it that he was the 4th son of William Beattie (of Burn) and Grizzel Porteous. But . . . .
Reiver
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Thanks heaps. I will change the Dalgarnoch details.
Briellen
Don't be too ready to change your Dalgarnoc reference.
DGFHS surveyed Dalgarnoc in recent years and this MI provides a link with your Scott family and Closeburn Parish (formerly Dalgarnoc).
This MI is from a gravestone in Dalgarnoc graveyard in Closeburn Parish, Dumfriesshire
In Memory of
Jannet SCOTT, daughter of Archibald SCOTT and Margaret CRANSTON of Hopsrig, who died in Novr 1782 aged 54 years
Also Thomas HARKNESS, her husband, son of the late William HARKNESS and Cathrine FERGUSON, who died at Mitchellslacks 26th May 1797 aged 80 years
Also to the Memory of John HARKNESS, son of the above Thomas HARKNESS, who died at Mitchellslacks 20th March 1852 in the 87th year of his age
Also in Memory of Janet HARKNESS, spouse of the said John HARKNESS, who died on the 7th Septr 1859 in the 74 year of her age.
Cheers
Sy
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Point taken Sy.
However Hopsrigg is in Westerkirk Parish. But it does mean apparently that both Closeburn and Westerkirk parishes are of particular interest.
Reiver
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Hi Reiver,
Yes, I have Mary Beattie's parents as William Beattie and Ann Scott; William's parents as Walter Beattie and Marion Black. Walter I have his father as William (no spouse details). Marion Blake's (Black) parents I have as William Blake and Isabella Biggar. It stops there as I continued on with the Scott's line.
Hi Sy,
Thanks heaps for those details. It helped to fill some gaps. With Archibald Scott - I am beginning to wonder if it is a middle name he used as it is very left field of the traditional James, John and Walter names :)
Briellen
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.... - I am beginning to wonder if it is a middle name he used as it is very left field of the traditional James, John and Walter names :)
Briellen
The forename Archibald may not be as uncommon as you think.
Here are a few MIs listing Archibald SCOTTs in the general area identified by Reiver.
Location: Canonbie Old Graveyard, DFS
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In Memory of William SCOTT in who died on his passage from Jamaica to New York in America September 15th 1801 aged 38 years
Also Archibald SCOTT, his son, who died 12th July 1805 aged 38 years
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In Memory of William SCOTT, late of Penton Mill, who died at Newcastleton November 16th 1849 aged 69 years
Also Margaret GOODFELLOW, his spouse, who died January 8th 1857 aged 60 years
And Archibald, their son, who died at Lockport, County of Niagra, State of New York, North America, May 30th 1840 aged 21 years
Also Elizabeth, his daughter, who died January 23rd 1841 aged 20 years
Also William, his son, who died in infancy
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Erected in Memory of Archibald SCOTT, tenant in Shillingmoss, who died March 17th 1817 aged 71 years
Also Adam SCOTT, his son, tenant in Shillingmoss, born 18th July 17[-]3, died 16th April 1834
Also Jane NIXON, spouse to above Archibald SCOTT, who died 12th August 1845 aged 82 years
Also Nelly SCOTT, their daughter, who died July 13th 1802 aged 14 months
Location: Hoddam (Old Parish Churchyard, Hoddam Cross), DFS
Thomas SCOTT, son to Archibald SCOTT in Hoddom Mains, who died 11th August 1801 aged 25 years
Location: Langholm (Old) Cemetery, DFS
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Sacred to the Memory of Archibald SCOTT, Merchant in Langholm, who died the 7 of May 1807 aged 77 years
Sybella GRAHAM his spouse, who died the 12 of January 1814 aged 58 years
Margaret SCOTT his daughter, who died the 17 of February 1791 aged 2 years
Archibald SCOTT his son, who died the 12 of August 1818 aged 26 years
Sacred to the Memory of Mary, daughter of George SCOTT, Merchant in Langholm, she died May 17th 1830 aged 18
months Jane his daughter, died July 20th 1835 aged 2 years
A second Mary, his daughter, died August 11th 1835 aged 4½ years
John his son, died February 5th 1837 aged 15 months
Jane MURRAY his spouse, she died 19th January 1842 aged 41 years
George his son, died 25th July 1852 aged 27 years
Also of the said George SCOTT, who died the 26th day of January 1874 aged 79 years
Mary Jane his daughter, died 11th of February 1891 aged 52 years
Sybella Graham SCOTT his daughter, died 1st January 1908 aged 81 years, last member of the family
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In Memory of Louisa Margaret Sarah SCOT, daughter of Archibald SCOT, Writer in Langholm,
and Louisa Margaret Johnstone LINDSAY his spouse Who died 25th February 1823 aged eleven months
Location: Wauchope Cemetery, Langholm, DFS
In Memory of Robert, son of Thomas SCOTT, who died in Langholm August 9th 1854 aged 2 years
Also the said Thomas SCOTT, who died 28th January 1871 aged 59 years
Also Mary his daughter, who died 27th August 1877 aged 28 years
Also Mary LITTLE his wife, who died October 1895 aged 75 years
Also Andrew SCOTT, Skinner, their son, who died at Greenock 1904 aged 64 years
In Memory of John SCOTT, Carrier from Manchester to Glasgow, who died January 18th 1806 aged 48 years
Also of Archibald SCOTT his brother, who died at Kingmoor in Cumberland, June 21st 1809 aged 60 years
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Hi Johnner,
Wow, thanks for all that info. It's greatly appreciated. I'll go and check it all out :)
Briellen
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Thank you Johnner for all of these Archibald Scotts and other details - and such a variety too! Unfortunately none of them fit in with the family I am after - But, I will keep plugging until I find something :)
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Hello Briellen
May I return to the parents - and beyond - of William Beattie (= Ann Scott). Their 'details' are available from the headstone in Watcarrick Burial Ground, Eskdalemui as are details about William's parents, Walter and Marion Black.
However the names of Marion's parents I have only from a biography written about another Eskdalemuir family but which included their names ie. William and Isabella Biggar. No dates and I haven't attempted any specific research on this. Do you have any other details?
Regards
Reiver
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Hi Reiver,
What kind of info are you after? I don't have any details in my tree (program) of William Blake and Isabella Biggar, just their names. I only went so far with them as I was focusing mostly on the direct line of the Scotts. I do have down the names of Walter and Marion plus their 8 children (tho not all their birth dates). That's not to say I don't have anything on William and Isabella. I will need to go through my notes and see what I have for you. I have also noted that if you put in Beggar (as a variation) more info does come up on ancestry, though I haven't followed it up at this stage.
Give me a day to go through my notes (miles of it) then I will get back to you on it.
Briellen :)