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could anyone id this photo my grandfarther is front row 2nd left see previous post as well thanks
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could anyone id cap badge for me and also what is the meaning of the white brading on the left shoulders thanks simon
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Probably Army Service Corps, the cap badges are very similar, They may even be drivers as opposed to Despatch riders, the vehicles at the time had no windscreens hence the googles.
The lack of pleats on tunic pockets suggest around 1916, The British Army started the war with box pleated pockets as material got scarce they reduced the ammount needed.
The Lanyard on shoulder may not have any regimental significance maybe a watch or clasp knife on the end of it.
Any other clues on the back of the pic?
James
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hi James on the back it says recived may 24 1915 and m bennett bulford camp studio salisbury plain. I also have 3 other photos of him which i will post the 3rd is of him in ww2
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This photo was taken from a motorcycle magazine from october 1916 and says the indian army corps signals in a french market square on the way to the front
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This is Robert in ww2 i think it is east lancashire regiment he died in 1945
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The first pic is clearly Royal Engineers, The other pic I am sure I have seen on R/C before, The last one is East Lancs as you say, Though he reply I made this morning is not related to these pics, I thought it was Army Service Corps cap badge not RE s
James
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Hi James yes i have looked on the net and as you have said it dose look like army service corps i suppose he could have started in ASC transfered to RE and then to indian army or indian army then to RE would that mean he would have had a different service number? thanks for your help
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It is quite likely he transferred to REs, they were primarily the main recruiters for Despatch riders when the war started, They would actively seek out recruits with motor cycle skills. It is also likely he would change regimental numbers on transfer.
Have you considered applying for his service records and medal information, he should have two sets having served in both wars, I know from this board that service records can take a long time to obtain but if you had them it would certainly make your research easier, his ww1 medals if any family member has them will indicate his serial number rank and regt.
James
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Hello Again James
Unfortunately no one has his medals and my mum and uncle were very young when he passed away and they cannot remember his date of birth. I however found his death cert on BMD and he died in 1945 which puts his year of birth as 1883 but did not have his date of birth on it.I also cannot find his marriage cert yet but i keep searching. I now know he was ASC and was at bulford camp from the first photo which is a great help all Ive been searching at this time was for RE.
Thank you for your continued help James it is much appreciated.
Simon
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anyone else got any information or direction in which way for me to proceed on the photos thanks Simon
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Hello All
would anyone now as picture 3 was taken for a motorcycle magazine weather or not it would have been recorded in the records as surly this would have been of some importance with it being for the press !!!! thank you
Simon
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Anyone got any more information for me thanks :)
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hi
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Good evening,
Not really in the "press" but a motorcycle magazine. So probably put in for the interest of the motorcycles shown. Triumphs they are I would say, this is a 1914 model; http://www.verralls.com/veteran-motorcycles/1060.html . Verrals did have several nice ones of varying ages around that era. They were all locked away when I walked past earlier but I will try and get an exact ID at the weekend if the mechanic is in.
John915
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On the subject of MC despatch riders, here are 3 photos of my uncle, Frank Henry Powell, b. 1898 in London.
I know very little about his military service, but I think I have found his medal card (RE Cpl 182239, Victory+British, but no Star).
If someone could confirm that this is a RE cap badge, I would be grateful. Also the motor cycle (Triumph?) and any clue as to location?
Thanks
Andrew
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On the subject of MC despatch riders, here are 3 photos of my uncle, Frank Henry Powell, b. 1898 in London.
I know very little about his military service, but I think I have found his medal card (RE Cpl 182239, Victory+British, but no Star).
If someone could confirm that this is a RE cap badge, I would be grateful. Also the motor cycle (Triumph?) and any clue as to location?
Thanks
Andrew
Firstly I can confirm it is an RE cap badge, being an ex RE Despatch Rider/Instructor I should know what it looks like.
On another point. I am the editor of the Royal British Legion Riders Branch newsletter http://www.rblr.co.uk/content/newsletters/newsletter16.pdf (http://www.rblr.co.uk/content/newsletters/newsletter16.pdf) and our next issue is coming out in March and it will be biased towards WWI being the 100 yr anniversary. We are also attempting to increase the funds we raise this year to £1 million for the Poppy Appeal.
For the cover we are looking for a pic of a WWI despatch rider and I saw this one of your Uncle, I would like to ask your permission to use it on the cover of our next newsletter, I can include your uncles service history inside if you sent it to me. I would also get a copy sent to you once it has been printed.
Please let me know either way @ newsletter@rblr.co.uk
Regards
Dave Muckle
RBLR