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Title: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Seaocean0 on Thursday 03 January 13 01:27 GMT (UK)
Wondering, if someone has access to the Lair numbers at Western Cemetery- Arbroath
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: ev on Thursday 03 January 13 10:56 GMT (UK)
Hi ,

Deceased Online has records for the Western Cemetery Arbroath.

http://www.deceasedonline.com/

It's free to search but you will have to buy credits to access lair numbers and map location.

Example(this information is free) -
Caird , Agnes , died 13th Aug. 1894 , buried 15th Aug. 1894 Arbroath Western

ev
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: DennyDescendant on Monday 25 February 13 04:36 GMT (UK)
I have a plan of the cemetery with plots and lairs on it, if that's what you mean?

Derek.
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Seaocean0 on Monday 25 February 13 05:02 GMT (UK)
Derek, thanks


Agnes Livingstone
burial date
19  Feb  1889

Maiden name Coutts

Western Cemetery, Arbroath
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: maisie76 on Monday 25 February 13 09:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

I emailed Dundee Council asking if they could help with where my grandfather was buried, i gave them his name and date he died and they kindly sent me where he was buried, who else was buried with him and a map of the cemetery.

Maisie
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 25 February 13 09:53 GMT (UK)
I emailed Dundee Council asking if they could help with where my grandfather was buried, i gave them his name and date he died and they kindly sent me where he was buried, who else was buried with him and a map of the cemetery.

Arbroath isn't part of Dundee; it comes under Angus Council, and Angus Council has decided to put all its burial records on DeceasedOnline. Contacting Dundee Council with this particular query would be a waste of your time and theirs because Dundee Council does not have the information required.
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: maisie76 on Monday 25 February 13 11:11 GMT (UK)
My point was to contact the relevant council and see if they can help, regardless if the burials are online, each council has to have the original copies.

Maisie
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 25 February 13 17:56 GMT (UK)
Ah. I read you message as suggesting that Dundee Council would provide the information.

The point I have evidently failed to make is that Angus Council have passed the buck to Deceased Online, so there's not much point in contacting them - they'll just refer you back to Deceased Online.
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: weemanswife on Monday 25 February 13 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

Looked up deceasedonline - Grave Ref M/290

There are 5 in the plot altogether -  William Livingstone 1941
                                                    Livingstone  1901
                                                    Alexander Livingstone 1896
                                                    George Livingstone 1889
                                                    Agnes Coutts Livingstone 1889

You can get a map of the cemetery for 50 credits, a Scan of the Burial Register for 15 credits and the above information for 15 credits.

Regards,
Weemanswife
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Seaocean0 on Tuesday 26 February 13 02:22 GMT (UK)
weemanswife,


I am greatful, for your assistance. :)
That concludes, Ms Agnes Livingstone/Livingston's husband was lost at Sea......


Thank you,

 Seaocean0
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Fide et Fortitudine on Thursday 11 April 13 12:33 BST (UK)
Hello Sea Ocean

I am new to this forum - what a wonderful website - and you have just given me my first possible family link!  Very exciting!   :)

Re: Scottish Census of 1851

Agnes Coutts, aged 6, born Arbroath, Forfarshire, at school (which puts her birth at 1845)
Living in the Parish of St. Vigeans, Arbroath, Co. Angus with her family:

William Coutts (37), Head of House, a flaxdresser (hand), born at "Morres" (probably a misspelling of Murroes, near Dundee)
Sarah Coutts (38), wife, born at Craignish, Argyll - nee Douglas according to Alexander Coutts's marriage certificate
and their 4 children:
William Coutts (16), a flaxdresser (machine), born at Greenock, Renfrewshire
Alexander Coutts (13), a flaxdresser (machine), born at Greenock - this is my g-g grandfather
Mary Coutts (3), born Arbroath
and Agnes, as above

The previous census (1841) mentions a 5th child, Ann, aged 10 months in that year.  It is possible that Ann or Agnes are the same child and the real age was miscounted in 1851, but it is more likely that the child Ann died.  Sarah Coutts (nee Douglas) remarried in 1855; her marriage certificate states children by former marriage:  3 living, 3 dead.  So there was a 6th child as well. 

So if your Agnes Coutts Livingstone is the same as mine, she was my great-great aunt. 

If you have any further information about her or her parents/siblings would love to hear. 


Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: weemanswife on Thursday 11 April 13 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Further to my previous posting in the next Plot Grave Ref. M289

          Livingston Mary Ann Leuchars  died 22-1-1954   Burial 25-1-1954
          George Livingstone  died 6-12-1897    Burial  7-12-1897
          Sarah Douglas Allardice  d 2-9-1871   Burial 5-9-1871
Title: Re: Western Cemetery Arbroath , MI's
Post by: Fide et Fortitudine on Friday 12 April 13 13:57 BST (UK)
Weemanswife, many thanks. 

Sarah Douglas Allardice is my g-g-g grandmother.  I have her death cert. as at 1st Sep. 1871, died aged 55.  Wife of James Allardice and formerly of William Coutts.  Daughter of Alexander Douglas, an agricultural labourer (deceased) and Sarah Douglas, nee Campbell.  Reported by Alexander Coutts, son, a flaxdresser, of 10 Baking Yard, Arbroath.  Registered 4/9/1871 at Arbroath. 
 
Alexander Coutts was my g-g grandfather.