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hi guys i am wondering if you can help me find my grandmother elsie green (her mother was called mary ann) born in 1898 died in 1986 married william edward king ,sorry i have no info on my grandfather at all apart from he may have come from wales
many thanks
angie :) :)x
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Hello,
where might Elsie have been born/lived/married?
Do you have an approximate year for the marriage?
regards
heywood
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Hi
Have you got any idea where she was born - at a quick glance I can see at least 15 Elsie Greens in the 1901 census with a mother Mary Ann. Any more clues such as siblings?
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Hi
There is no Elsie King death in 1986 with a birthyear 1898. Also - all Elsie King deaths in 1986 have a middle christian name
Where did Elsie die
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Hiya Angel
was your grandmother Elsie Green or Elspeth Green ....do you have her baptism ?
what town was she born in ?
allan
ADDED - OK ...the Elspeth Green b 1898 does not have Mary Ann as mother so we can forget that .
Elsie Green baptised 17th august 1898 at Oldbury ,Worcs - parents Edward Green and Mary Ann
this is on familysearch.org - the only one showing in 1898 .....is this her ? ....was she born in Worcestershire ?
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The only possible marriage I can find is
Apr/May/Jun 1922
Doncaster 9c 780
Elsie L Green to Edward King
Is that looking like a possibility?
Where / when were their children born?
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This is the only birth that I can find that fits with the marriage that lizdb has found:
Elsie Louisa Green, Jun q, 1898, Mansfield, 7b, 62
Only death:
Elsie Louisa King, July 1987, Liverpool, 36, 592. 787
(date of birth given as 3 June 1904)
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Just adding this in case it might be the family in 1901
Park Street, Alfreton, Derbyshire
RG13/3232/90/22
John Green, 40, coal miner hewer, b. New Radford, Notts
Mary Ann, w, 37, b. Little Bytham, Lincs
Florence J Hatherley, d, mar, 18, b. Marsh Lane, Derbyshire
George A, s, 4, b. Mansfield, Notts
Elsie L, d, 2, b. -do-
Benjamin Hatherley, s -in -l, mar, 21, coal miner hewer, b. Stanton in the Wolds, Notts
Benjamin L Hatherley, (grd) son, 1, b. Mansfield, Notts
brevitas
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There is a marriage of an Edith L Green to an Edward King at Doncaster in 1922.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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There is a marriage of an Edith L Green to an Edward King at Doncaster in 1922.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
We've got that! See reply #5!
Just waiting for angeljoyvy to come back online to see if it is likely, or if she/he has any other info
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My apologies,I quite honestly missed your earlier post.I'm rather lamely blaming it on this cold!It is time though we heard from the OP!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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:) hi guys i have just found out my grandma had a middle name of louisa,she died 8/7/1986 under her second marriage name which was slack and lived in nottingham at the time,she had 4 children george (who for some reason kept her maiden name of green ) then edward ,flossie and lily ivy my mum who was born in 1926 in the doncaster area,still cant find where grandma or grandad king was born tho,i was told yesterday that grandad came from pontyprid and had a sisiter called harriet,and a brother thomas,edward apparently died at 12 george street skellow doncaster,but cant find it ,grandma king had a brother called jack i think,any help on where they were born would be great specially my beloved grandad
thankyou xx
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So the Doncaster marriage with Elsie's middle initial 'L' is looking good then!
Next step then will be to get that marriage cert and see what clues it gives about Edward - age, fathers name and occupation, witnesses etc.
When did Edward die? His age at death will help with finding his birth too.
Looks like her remarriage to Slack was in 1964
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forgot to say yes i have also found the marriage ,april,may.june 1922 thanks alot ,im not sure but i think elsie was born in april 1998
thankyou for your help xx
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around 1959 but that is pretty much a guess sorry ,am trying to find his gravestone at the moment tho i feel he may be cremated and taken to pontefract because there was no crematoriom in doncaster around that time ???
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sorry meant to say elsie was born 1898
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wow thankyou for finding her marriage to joe slack i had no idea of the yr bless ya,you are fast haha,but i am fairly new ,this is a very heplful site thankyou
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So the details (birth and census) that Brevitas found earlier are looking good!
Best to get the marriage cert to confirm her father, to be sure it is the right family.
I cant see a death for Edward King in Doncaster at the right time. I see he married as plain Edward King - does he give a middle name on your mum's birth cert?
Where did the suggestion he was William Edward come from?
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In the Probate Indexes there is an entry for a William King, died 9 Feb 1960 of 11 Woodfield Rd, Doncaster (so not the address you have) Admon with will to Florence Whitfield (wife of Frederick George Whitfield)
this may be a red herring - do you know if the daughter Flossie was actually a Florence and if so did she marry a Whitfield?
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not sure about flossie but i do know she married gibson ,as for grandad yes he is is down on my mums wedding cert as william edward king a surface worker,just rang a cousin and she thinks he died in 1962 ,but definatly in skellow area sorry apparently everyone called him edward tho
xx
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also im told he left a will to flossie so am alittle confused now haha xx
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this may be a red herring - do you know if the daughter Flossie was actually a Florence and if so did she marry a Whitfield?
I recall seeing an (eldest) daughter Florence King, mmn Green when I checked earlier :)
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Just re-found the reg:
Florence L King, Jun q, 1924, Doncaster, 9c, 1502 mmn Green
:)
PS - hope this date is within the RC rules :-\
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I think the 1960 death could be a red herring.There are two earlier deaths in 1955 and 1959.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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thanks this fit in with flossie bless ya
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yes the edward king i have found just now is quite early to what i am told so abit stuck there at moment but your help is appreciated thank you all ,xx
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i think the william edward who died in 1959 has got to be me grandad as there are no more as far as i can see
thanks guys,just need to find where they were born now
anymore help or advice much appreciated but i know you must be very busy
god blessxxx
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So - that is this death then, that we think is him?
Jul/Aug/Sep 1959
Don Valley ref 2b 352
William E King
Age 72
That puts his birth around 1887
So, when you get the marriage cert to find his fathers name and occupation you might be able to get him on 1891/1901 censuses
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:)yes thankyou i do think this is him
god bless for all your help xx