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Hi
This is like finding a needle in a haystack but here goes anyway...
My ggrndfather Daniel Henrickson b. abt 1860 Finland.Family story: At age 14yrs left Finland with his older brother and sailed to England. They sailed around the world as crew members before being assigned to different ships. Reported in his Naturalization papers that he arrived in New Zealand and stayed several yrs. He then sailed to Australia where he made his way to WA to marry and settle and raise his family.Apparently stated resided in NZ 2 yrs. Any traces of his stay?No ship names sorry and may of arrived abt 1883.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro,
Do you know when he went to WA? there is mention of a Daniel Henrickson in Paperspast
Manawatu Standard, Volume XLI, Issue 8270, 29 April 1907, Page 8
charged with smoking in a railway carriage
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=p&p=home&e=-------10--1----0--
Cheers Janette
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Dear Janette
No official date but married 17 Sep 1889 Mt Pleasant Ch. Arthur River WA.
He was a smoker;could you send me the item of interest please?
I have his copy of his Australian Naturalization records 1927 and states b.1860.Arrived Australia 1883?
Emigrated via NZ to Adelaide SA lived England 4yrs and NZ 2yrs.
Adelaide 9 months then married in WA 1889. Does that Daniel Henrickson fit the time line?
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro,
Do you know when he went to WA? there is mention of a Daniel Henrickson in Paperspast
Manawatu Standard, Volume XLI, Issue 8270, 29 April 1907, Page 8
charged with smoking in a railway carriage
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=p&p=home&e=-------10--1----0--
Cheers Janette
If you open the Paperspast link and search for the article mentioned,sorry at present the link shrink is unavailable
Cheers Janette
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Hi velcro,
Does he have a middle name? The only Daniel Henrickson I can see on the Electoral Rolls has the middle name of "Peter". That one fits in the E/R for 1907 Manawatu.
Cheers
KHP
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Looking at the Naturalisation for NZ, this Daniel Peter Henrickson was from Denmark born 14 April 1871 .... so not your chappie.
Cheers
KHP
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Thanks for the input but not mine.
Family have said that his family may of been Swedish and settled in Finland.Family surname today Henrickson. Spelling may of changed once arrived in NZ or Australia or may been the same??
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
Can't offer any help sorry but I'm just wondering what you know of Daniel HENRICKSON's family.
Do you know the name or age of the older brother. Or of any other siblings.
Do you know the brothers' rank at any time in their career (able seaman, mate, officer etc)
Do you know where in Finland/Sweden he/they were born.
Finnish and Swedish family records back to the 18th century are quite comprehensive and are available on-line (but usually pay-per-view).
Maybe there are other family members who visited or migrated to NZ and we can work from them.
Regards
Beg
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Me again
i know nothing of his parents and siblings (if any). Know a lot of his Australian family. He apparently had no more contact with his Finnish connections once in Australia apparently. He spoke "broken English" didnt write in English. Would a photo of him help?
On his Naturalization records state his father as Aaron. Now he required a scriber for his information to fill the forms. He stated his birth as 15 Aug 1860 Priastadt Finland. I haven't found this place. As the scriber wrote as he heard I not sure???
Family say that he may of had a brother Andrew. He named 1 son Andrew.??
The family also say his sisters may of been called Annie, Susan, May, Pearl,Irma Emmeline??? His daughter were named these names?
No other family moved to New Zealand. All in Australia.
But I do have another family that migrated to NZ. John Blechynden
d. 8 Jan 1924 Nelson NZ m. Isabella Lindsay 1879 Newcastle Falstone ENG.2nd wife Sarah Jane Newton. d. 2 Feb 1957 Nelson NZ
his sister Elizabeth Blechydnen also went to NZ. m.John Henry INGLIS/INSES. possible Auckland Farmer. Elizabeth b. 1833.
Any info on this family would be welcomed.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi
3 children to Isabella and John
1880/9120 Blechynden Alfred Lindsay / Isabella/ John
1882/9988 Blechynden Norah / Isabella/ John
1884/15022 Blechynden Isabel Elizabeth / Isabella /John
Cheers Janette
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Hi,
Not sure if you have it ..... but there is a Probate for John Blechynden, he was an Engineer. The Archives site isn't working at the moment, so I can't put the link up. If you haven't the Probate, SKS on here if you start a new thread will offer to take a copy of it.
Cheers
KHP
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One of us will put the link up for you when it is up and running.
Cheers
KHP
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Also posted on Europe board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,629682.new.html#new
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Hi again...
Thanks for the Finnish info :-)
The following won't help your NZ search, and apologies if you've already done it, but have you considered browsing through the on-line Finnish birth/baptism registers for August 1860 and seeing if a Daniel gets a mention. Will take time and patience but what's new :-)
Here's an example....
In reply to one of your earlier posts (Feb 1999) Robert.T says that "Priastadt" could be "Brahestad", which corresponds to the parish of "Raahe".
Here is the August 1860 baptism register for Raahe/Brahestad...
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/syntyneet_1846-1860_ik56-57/222.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/syntyneet_1846-1860_ik56-57/222.htm)
A bit harsh on the eyes but the names of the children are usually either underlined, as in this example, (Albert, Albert, Samuel, Maria, August etc) or have their own column.
And the numbers next to the name relate to the date of birth and baptism e.g "12 16 Albert" means Albert born 12 Aug 1860, baptised 16 Aug 1860.
So you'll be looking for a 15 and a Daniel. You can ignore everything else until you find your man. Then just ask for a translation on the Europe board. The other stuff is usually parents names, residence, occupation, sponsors names and priest.
The main problem is that there are a couple of hundred searchable parish registers on-line. This page lists them all...
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/arkisto/paikkakunnittain.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/arkisto/paikkakunnittain.htm)
What you need to do is check August 1860 in each individual "Paikkakunta - Parish"
You're looking for "Syntyneiden ja kastettujen luettelot" or "Syntyneet", which means birth/baptism register. If it's not on the parish page it's yet to be digitised.
A lot depends on the birth date information you have being correct. It may pay to check the Raahe registers either side of 1860.
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A lot of the Finnish birth registers are indexed on FamilySearch but "only a few localities are included"
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1778464 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1778464)
Couldn't find a likely Daniel with a father Aaron. You may have more luck.
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Of course you could just spend 27 Euro (A$35) and become a member of the FFHA site. Then you could have a look at their index of names. Much quicker. (I'm assuming the birth registers have been indexed but it may pay to ask.)
Join the FFHA
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/sshy/liity.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/sshy/liity.htm)
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Like I said earlier, apologies for the post if you've already done this.
Regards
Beg
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Hi,
Here is the link for Archives for John Blechynden.
If you do want a copy of the Probate.... a new thread with the title "Wellington Archives Lookup" and attach the link that I have given. Being the start of the new year, not sure when someone would be available to go, but it will get done.
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=20141565
Cheers
KHP
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http://koti.kapsi.fi/~perttuveikko/doku.php?id=saloinen_rk1779
Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.12.1738 Raahe (SL)
hu Beata Mårtensdr Hannila 21.2.1745 Raahe (SL)
VL 16.2.1769
son Matts Henriksson Forbus 29.1.1774 (SL)
son Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.2.1778 (SL)
dr Margareta Henriksdr Forbus 9.1.1780 (SL)
son Aron Henriksson Forbus 2.10.1783 (SL)
usually in Finland and Sweden is k not c, as in Britain
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Hi again...
Further to Brahestad's sterling post (and a warm welcome to Rootschat Brahestad :-) here is the birth/baptism register entry for Aaron Henrichsson Forbus
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet_1777-1838_ik547/20.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet_1777-1838_ik547/20.htm)
...and a scan of the 1779-1784 Confessional Book entry found by Brahestad
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1779-1784_va11-12/25.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1779-1784_va11-12/25.htm)
...and the following Confessional Book (1785-1790)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1785-1790_va13-15/22.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1785-1790_va13-15/22.htm)
Regards
Beg
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he was a sailor? if you were so right here may be his memorabilia
http://www.raahe.fi/alltypes.asp?d_type=5&menu_id=2364&menupath=2363,2364#2364 :)
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Hi again...
In the next Confessional Book (1791-1798) neither Aaron nor his older sister Margaret are mentioned with the family. Possibly died in 1786 and 1789.
EDIT: See death next post
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1791-1797_va16-19/33.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1791-1797_va16-19/33.htm)
The death of the father Henrik is noted with the word "död" next to his name and the date of death in the final column (15 over 3 and a 1795)
Here's the death register entry for the father Henrik FORBUS, occupation sailor (Sjöman)
d.15 Mar 1795
bur. 25 Mar 1795
aged 56 years 3 months
"af Lungfos" is most likely where he lived.
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1749-1838_ik548/98.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1749-1838_ik548/98.htm)
Regards
Beg
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Ouch!
Just realized that there is a 77 year age difference between Aron HENRIKSSON FORBUS b.1783 and Daniel HENRICKSON (son of Aron) b.1860.
They may not be father and son but hopefully still related.
EDIT:
Death of Aron, son of Henric FORBUS
d.16 Feb 1786, buried 19 Feb 1786
(at least that's how I read it. Might be died and buried 2 March 1786)
aged 2 years 4 months
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1749-1838_ik548/92.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1749-1838_ik548/92.htm)
Regards
Beg
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Hi to all
All the best for 2013.
Thank you all to come to my assistance RE: Daniel Henrickson.
So much input but now totally confused.
So from the records do you have Daniels parents as such?
Cheers
Velcro
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Hello Velcro...
No sight of Daniel or of his parents as of yet.
And there's no guarantee that the family found by Brahedstad is related to your man. I think he's going on the Priastadt/Brahedstad connection from your other threads.
I'll try tracing the two surviving sons (Matts b.1774 and Henrik b.1778) through to 1860-ish. See if that turns up anything.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Much appreciate your interest. Daniel has been my brickwall for over 20 yrs so have time now to keep hunting with better resources available these days. If only I asked my grandfather when he was alive and his brothers and sisters about their father Daniel. Fingers crossed something turns up. Many thanks.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi
Are there census records available in Kymi Huruksela Rysa and Raahe to locate Daniel Henrickson b. 1860. Father maybe Aaron.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
EDIT:
Big ooops...I waffled on but didn't actually answer your question
LDS mentions the Henkikirjat, 1820-1860 which contains census records of Viipuri county, 1820-1860 including parts of Kymi county (Kymi, Lappee, Parikkala, Hamina and Lappeenranta)
I don't think it's on-line. Will look around
No mention of a census for Raahe.
No mention of records at LDS for Huruksela or Rysa
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Lots of words in the following post but no actual help so feel free to just browse :-)
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As I understand it the Finnish/Swedish equivalent of a census record is the Rippikirja (Communion Book).
Every year the local clergyman would go around the parish making sure everyone was familiar with the teachings of the church. He would also keep a record of everyone at each residence which would include, at minimum, a name and date of birth. Relationship to the head of the house was often mentioned as well.
If someone had died since his last visit the date of death was also noted.
I've been looking through the "Raahe Rippikirja, 1865-1874" and the "Raahe Rippikirja, 1871-1881" for a mention of Daniel. I had no luck finding him but the way I search may have had something to do with it. I find it easiest to just browse the date of birth column and just check for people born in 1860.
Here's what I mean....
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/rippikirja_1871-1881_mko135-137/3.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/rippikirja_1871-1881_mko135-137/3.htm)
It's easy to just scan the column for 1860 then note the name and date of birth. Sofia born 3rd April, Greta born 18th April and so on.
I'm assuming Daniel's date of birth was 15 Aug 1860 as the Swedes/Finns were really into accurate record keeping.
Have yet to search the "Raahe Rippikirja, 1854-1863". Feel free to jump in :-)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/rippikirja_1854-1863_ik55-56/hakemisto_1.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/raahe/rippikirja_1854-1863_ik55-56/hakemisto_1.htm)
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My reasoning for trying to trace Daniel and not Aron is that Daniel's birthdate is the one "definite" piece of information you have.
Patrynomic surnames were still in use in the 1860's so Daniel's surname may have been recorded as ARONSSON. And that's not adding in the fact that a farm or cottage was often include in the surname.
For example...
Marriage of Henrik DANIELSSON RIKALA RAUTOLA and Johanna Sofia JOHANSDOTTER
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8Y6-1JT (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8Y6-1JT)
Note Henrik's surname which includes the fact that his father is a Daniel, he (maybe) came from Rikala and the name of his (maybe) farm/occupation is Rautola.
I mention this couple because on 18 Aug 1860 they had a son Daniel. He is the closest I came to a Daniel HENRICKSON b.15 Aug 1860
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/teisko/syntyneet_1855-1871_tk193/68.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/teisko/syntyneet_1855-1871_tk193/68.htm)
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Out of interest, as Daniel seems to have changed to his father's surname of HENRICKSON it most likely means that Aron's father was a Henrick, which isn't of much use at the moment but will be important if/when you find a birth record of Daniel.
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I followed my own advice from an earlier post and looked through the Finnish birth records for the August 1860 period. Again no luck. Not quite sure what that means. Hopefully just that the record has yet to be scanned.
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I've enquired at the Finland Family History Association and the bottom line is that you can't do a name search on their website, member or not. No nominal index as such has been compiled.
With the small amount of info you have and the fact that you're in Australia(?) the only real strategy you have is looking through page after page of birth, confirmation, moving and "census" records for a mention of a Daniel b.15 Aug 1860 or thereabouts.
At least you only have a small time frame to search (1860 to mid-1870's). And I've already done the Aug 1860 births, although you're welcome to re-do them.
Would be handy if you know a few more hands as by all accounts they make work light.
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Here is another Finnish website that thankfully does have a nominal index, but unfortunately only holds records up to 1850-ish. It will be helpful once you find Daniel.
But in the meantime if you want to you can look for Aron, son of Henrick. It might lead somewhere. I found 158 possible candidates.
You may wish to use the Google Chrome browser when you browse this website as it automatically translates the website from Finnish to English
HisKi - Genealogical Society of Finland
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/451ehm?fi (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/451ehm?fi)
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I only managed to trace one of the two brother's mentioned in an earlier post. Matts, who died in 1820. Here is his final mention in the Rippikirja. Note how he's listed as Matts Henrick AROLA, maybe a farm name.
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1817-1823_va27-29/45.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1817-1823_va27-29/45.htm)
It would be handy to trace the other brother Henrick. Would be handy if he had a son called Aron who had a son called Daniel.
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Like I said at the beginning of this post, lots of words but still nothing which breaks the brick wall. Will keep looking.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Thanks for all those words and going all out to assist me. I feel like I'm going around in circles but will keep hunting. More hands would be helpful can leave that open. As far as i know I'm the only one in the family still researching. Everyone else passed on or given up.
I too found the census site this am but didn't know who I was looking for and also went with the dates.
Will take your advice and look up the sites you suggest.Team work.
The naming system in Finland is very confusing but once you have the correct pple will be able to retrieve a lot of information. I dint mind waffle!
I don't know if this is my Daniel but came across Daniel Henrickson b. 9 Aug Huruksela Rysa parents: Henrik Heikki Henrikkson Rysa 1833-1868 and Ann Maria Syvesterdotter (dotter means daughter does it?) 1837 -1896.Kalamies Farm Anjala Finland.
Old research I had from many years ago just found. Can you assist me to see if this is them??
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/saloinen/rippikirja_1817-1823_va27-29/45.htm
I will look up as well.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi again Velcro...
LDS has indexed the record you mentioned...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB9F-G7Z (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB9F-G7Z)
Also the Genealogical Society of Finland website I mentioned earlier...
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski?fi+t4035394 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski?fi+t4035394)
I was trying to find it when browsing the Anjala birth registers but had no luck.
Will have another look because it must be there somewhere :-)
The birth may have been recorded in a later month.
Aug 1860 - Anjala Births
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/syntyneet_1860-1880_mko1-4/3.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/syntyneet_1860-1880_mko1-4/3.htm)
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You're right. Dotter is daughter, -sson is son. So Anna Maria SYLVESTERDOTTER is Anna Maria, daughter of Sylvester.
Dotter is often just shortened down to "dr" e.g Anna Maria SYLVESTERDR
Regards
Beg
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According to earlier posts on various sites, the marriage certificate shows the father's name as "Sheen" - is that right? Is it possible to post a scan of that part of the certificate?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433379.0.html
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/soc.genealogy.surnames.global/wqhlF3z9U5M
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Hi
Thanks for refreshing past posts.
Since then have been going in circles and has been my challenge again to solve Daniel's Finnish past.(if possible).
I have now certified copies of his marriage certificate to Susannah Page 17 Sep. 1889 Williams Bridge Western Australia. No definite records as yet from Daniel's life in Finland to his marriage in WA.
1.28/9/1981 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Sheen Henrickson.
2.20/8/1985 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Ehzen Henrickson.
3. Death Cert. States Aaron as Daniels father.(I know that this relative wasn't 100% sure on his background but what was passed on to them from family)Mother: Eliza unknown
4.Cert copy of his death cert.Daniel's place of birth Rierstart Finland. another source states Priastadt.Finland.
He applied for Australian Naturalization in 1927 which he gained.He has a person scribe for him as he had difficulty writing and speaking English.Very little was the answer to his application to writing and speaking English.
His birthplace and Nationality: his own statement as he says all papers and records were lost at Sea.(family story he was shipped wrecked off NZ on way to South Australia)
Apparently very loyal to The British during the war.
He applied to be Naturalized for the aged pension.
Thought he was a naturalized British subject prior 1927 but wasn't so applied 1927.Application approved.
Other sources with assisted research is possibley:
Daniel b. 9 Aug Huruksela Rysa parents: Henrik Heikki Henrikkson Rysa 1833-1868 and Ann Maria Syvesterdotter 1837 -1896.Kalamies Farm Anjala Finland.
Do I take this is he and move on? Or keep digging for further records that cant prove this to be incorrect?
Going through very old letters (ones on paper) if he was a sailor as such would there be records of him in the Finnish Seaman's Mission and The Missions to Seaman St Michael Paternoster Royal College Hill London? Apparently was in London 4 yrs???
Cheers
Velcro
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Daniel b. 9 Aug Huruksela Rysa parents: Henrik Heikki Henrikkson Rysa 1833-1868 and Ann Maria Syvesterdotter 1837 -1896.Kalamies Farm Anjala Finland.
Do I take this is he and move on? Or keep digging for further records that cant prove this to be incorrect?
Hi again Velcro...
Before you accept the above Daniel as your Daniel you should first take a look at the relevant Rippikirja (Communion Book) for Kymi, which covers Huruksela. It would need to cover the 1857 marriage and the 1860 birth.
Finding the family is the least you should do before you accept this Daniel as, for all we know, he may have died an early death which would have been noted in the Communion Book.
Or he may have been an only son meaning there is no older brother Andrew (Anders), which would also have been noted.
Unfortunately the relevant Communion Book has yet to be digitised. And it's actually two Communion Books that you need to view. Here is a link to the microfilm list. You somehow need to view I:13 and I:15 found on rolls TK 833 and TK 834
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=FILMS&ID=261&TYPE=HTML&LANG=EN (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=FILMS&ID=261&TYPE=HTML&LANG=EN)
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I don't know if you're interested but if you're anywhere near a LDS Family History Centre you could always have LDS post the microfilms out to you. You can order them online and you only pay for postage (about A$7.00 per item). You'd want to order Film 58322 which contains I:13 and Film 58323 which contains I:15
Hope the link works...
http://tinyurl.com/b5dpdjt (http://tinyurl.com/b5dpdjt)
If not, go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search (https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search) and enter 58322 into the Film Search.
You might also want to have a look at the following microfiche which cover Huruksela over the same time period. The Pre-confirmation Records (Lastenkirja) detail the children of the parish.
http://tinyurl.com/algv5r5 (http://tinyurl.com/algv5r5)
Again, if the link doesn't work go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search (https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search) and enter 6363980 into the Film Search.
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Having said all that, personally I wouldn't bother tracing this Daniel until you're running out of things to do :-)
Mainly because on his naturalisation papers (http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1507474) your Daniel says his father's name is Aaron. It really can't be clearer than that.
He also says he was born in Priastad, which I'd put money on being Brahestad.
So that's zero for three for Daniel, son of Henrik (not Aaron), born in Huruksela (350 miles away from Brahestad), on 9 Aug 1860 (not 15 Aug 1860)
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At age 14yrs Daniel left Finland with his older brother and sailed to England
If he arrived in Australia in 1883 (aged 23) having spent two years in NZ and four years in England doesn't that mean he left home aged 17 years. Or do you have family history which says he was 14 when he left home.
Regards
Beg
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Dear BegClonrode
Thanks for sparring me on as I'm not ready to give up on my ggrandfather yet.
If there are persons out there able to access these records and do a lookup would be very grateful.
You somehow need to view I:13 and I:15 found on rolls TK 833 and TK 834
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=FILMS&ID=261&TYPE=HTML&LANG=EN
I reside in Australia so don't think they will be available? Anyone that is comfortable to do a lookup next time they visit their LDS centre then could you look this up for me please?
Would the film be translated to English?
Your sites worked and will read thoroughly tomorrow.Thanks
Did this and this worked too! Typed in surname search- do I type Henrickson in with this spelling?
Also f the link doesn't work go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search and enter 6363980 into the Film Search. It did.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp
Didn't know these were available online.I have a couple of copies I posted away for. This was the only lead I had on him other than family stories and there is a handful of those.
Family story that he left when 14yrs of age. Others didn't have the access to his Naturalization records so sums weren't done.
May of left his village home at 14 yrs of age and moved elsewhere in Finland then started his journey at 17 out of Finland for what ever reason.Adventure, work ?????Family stories. I'll share them another day or next email?
So where and what am I looking for in the microfilm? Daniel Henrickson on the microfilm records 1860.
Cheers
Velcro
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Just a thought - if he was born in 1860 and wanted to make sure that he qualified for his old age pension, why wait till 1927 to apply for naturalisation? If that was true, he would have been 65 in 1925.
Per the Feb 1938 death announcement http://tinyurl.com/9wc5pgg , he was then aged 85 which suggests he was born circa 1862, which would tie in better with the story of him leaving Finland at 14, spending 4 years in London, 2 years in NZ, arriving SA in 1883. - OOPS 1852. Doesn't make any sense!
Is the Gert Henrickson pictured here (http://here)one of the family?
http://www.boddington.wa.gov.au/history
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Dear ShaunJ
It was stated in the Naturalization records that he previously applied many years ago pre 1927 he applied for the Naturalization but didn't get response or he did not respond. Misplaced the paperwork.
His wife or someone must of made them aware he was able to get the age pension so do so had to be an Australian citz. For some reason he thought he was a British subject??? He was old enough to apply for it and was granted it as well as being Naturalized.
Why do you think he is my brickwall. Nothing makes much sense with his statements and I have about 6 different family stories and they dont make sense either. My mystery man!
Yes his daughter. Gertrude Emmeline "Gert".Gert Henrickson, Martha Farmer, Pearl Milbourne, Eda Farmer, all Daniel's dtrs.
Time spent coming to Australia is what was Daniel's recollection and was stated in his Naturalization records.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1507474&I=1&SE=1
Cheers
Velcro
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Unfortunately the relevant Communion Book has yet to be digitised.
Hi again Velcro...
My apologies. The relevant Communion Books have been digitised by The National Archives of Finland (Arkistolaitos).
Here is the entry for Henrik HENRIKSON (1833-1868) and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER b.1837
Pää- ja rippikirjat 1860-1870 (I Aa:11)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4459203 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4459203)
Their child Daniel HENRIKSON b.9 Aug 1860 is listed in the Children's Book. This Book lists the children who have yet to be confirmed, which usually happens mid-teens.
Lastenkirjat 1860-1872 (I Ab:5)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4461417 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4461417)
Daniel's name is crossed out which usually implies the child/person has died. He has no notations so I'm guessing he died in the first year of his life.
As their is no date of death mentioned I'm asking on a Finnish genealogy forum for an informed opinion as opposed to good old kiwi guesswork. Will get back to you anon.
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Am still looking for Daniel. Very elusive :-)
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
If we can narrow down out options then maybe we can find Daniel's roots. As stated before my Mystery man!
If only I asked when I was younger but I don't think his children really new the truth behind his Life before Australia as there are about a handful of stories of his travels to Australia.
Thank you for being interested in my research to uncover Daniel's past. Keep fingers crossed.
Maybe crossed out not cause of death but maybe migrated?
I have been passed on info stating a Daniel Henrickson b, 9 Aug 1860 migrated to Kymi to Anjala 6 Nov 1881. From Ajala to Ruotsinpyhtaa (Stromfors) 1882.
Daniel Henrickson parents Henrick Henricksson Rysa and Anna Maria Sylvesterdotter
Farmer hand Daniel moved from Svensby Muckis (Stromfors) 9 Nov 1885 in order to go to the Lapptrask now Lapinjarvi.
Stomfors and Lapptrask are near the Rysa farm and also Kalliokoski Hortola.
He is not incoming to Lapptrask 1885 or 1886. No more records of him.
Anna Maria Sylvesterdotter moved to Lil Tavastia Kymi Ca. 1868 after the death of Henrick Henrickson. She then remarried farmer Topias Eriksson 1875 Daniel her son still lives in the house.
Anna b. 24 Dec 1837 Anjala d.18 Mar 1896 Kymi Kalliokoski Hortola
2nd marriage: 31 Oct 1875 son of Erik- Topias Erikinpoika Hortola b. 8 Nov 1882 Kymi Kalliokoski
They lived in Kymi Kalliokoski farm Hortola. Topias was alive in year 1899 and lived in Kymi as a farmer.Also in Lil Tavastila near Kalliokoski a child born and named Alma Mathilda.
Not sure if this a the same family if so would be this Daniel Henrickson's step brother?
Matts b.27 Jan 1861
Ch.29 Jan 1861
Village: Huruksela
Farm/house Name: Rysa
Father: Henrik Henrickson
Mother Saara Thomasdotter
But still not convinced. What do you make of it?
Cheers
Velcro
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...would be this Daniel Henrickson's step brother?
Matts b.27 Jan 1861
Hi again...
I think Matts is a step-uncle to Daniel (if there's such a term as step-uncle)
Daniel's father Henrik (1833-1868) is the son of Daniel's grandfather also called Henrik (1809-?) and his first wife Maria MATTSDOTTER (1803-1850)
No.60
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4608387 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4608387)
Matts b.1861 is the son of Daniel's grandfather Henrik (1809-) and his second wife Sara THOMASDOTTER (1821-?)
b.27 Jan 1861
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4613426 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4613426)
Here's a Communion Book and a Children's Book which help out.
Pää- ja rippikirjat 1850-1859 (I Aa:10)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4493098 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4493098)
Lastenkirjat 1860-1872 (I Ab:5)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4461417 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4461417)
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Daniel's name is crossed out which usually implies the child/person has died. He has no notations so I'm guessing he died in the first year of his life.
Wrong sorry :-)
It seems that Daniel's name crossed out but no mention of a death means the entry has been transferred to a different page in the book, for whatever reason. The clue was the "p.25" at the end of the entry, which means transferred to page 25.
Page 25 says "fr.p 25, t.p 49" or "from page 25, transferred to page 49"
Page 49 looks like greek to me but I think it refers to page 108 of the next volume, which isn't available on-line. I'll get that translated anon.
But the main thing is that this Daniel was still alive in 1870.
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Wish I could verify the info you've given (for my own sake) but the only thing I can find online is Daniel moving to Anjala (6 Nov 1881), then moving on to Ruotsinpyhtää/Strömfors (18 Nov 1882)
Anjala Moving In - 6 Nov 1881
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/muuttaneet_1880-1887_mko56/5.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/muuttaneet_1880-1887_mko56/5.htm)
Anjala Moving Out - 18 Nov 1882
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/muuttaneet_1880-1887_mko56/10.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/muuttaneet_1880-1887_mko56/10.htm)
Would be hard-pressed to read "HENRICKSON" if I didn't know better. No mention of a date of birth.
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I'd still be inclined to think this Daniel HENRICKSON RYSA b.9 Aug 1860 is a red herring. You have him in Strömfors in 1885/86 but in his naturalisation document your Daniel says he arrived in Australia in 1883 having left Finland six years before that.
This of course relies on the naturalisation papers information being accurate, something I'm finding harder to accept :-)
Will keep looking for Daniel and Aron.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
"This of course relies on the naturalisation papers information being accurate, something I'm finding harder to accept :-)"
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the same way about his Naturalization records.
I'm not giving up on him either.
WA Postal Directory for 1899
Daniel HENRICKSON - Blacksmith - Daylerking (Quindanning)
1905 Post Office Directory as a Blacksmith at Dalyerking, WA
I'll share some of the family stories:
"After Aaron HENRICKSON's wife died, he remarried. Daniel's father & brother Andrew, sailed to England for Engineering studies at a College in ENG & USA. Andrew & Aaron were on another sailing ship from England to sail to USA. Daniel took to the sea on another ship, leaving port in England, Andrews ship was (arriving?) and Daniel didn't see him, then, or ever again.
Daniel sailed the world for abt. 5 years so the story goes. He arrived in Port Adelaide, South Australia. Whilst there, he met a man recruiting Labour for building of the Champion Bay to Northampton railways. Railways in W.A wanted an Engineer Driver. Daniel left his ship and made his way to Champion Bay,(Geraldton) W.A. He didn't stay long as the work didn't suit him.
He returned south and decided with the help of a covered handcart to paddle his trade of watchmaker. He made his way around the country towns and farms.
Here he met Susannah PAGE at Quindanning.W.A. They married and was given some land at the" Stockyards" by her father.The ownership of which he later disputed so they left and started the " Grass Valley" Farm, 2 miles west of Quindanning.W.A. This is only family hear say passed on down the family.
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Another Family story:
Daniel apparently travelled to Adelaide and Kalgoorlie to do surveying, he also a Blacksmith, Timber builder, Clock repairer at Quindanning.W.A.
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Occupation at time of entry of marriage:" Watchmaker".
Signed his name with an "X" at presence on the birth of daughter Bertha Susanna HENRICKSON.(1899) But when naturalized, 28 September 1927 an Australian citizen, he was able to sign his name!
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Another Family story
"As far as they can remember learning from "Granny" (Susannah HENRICKSON ) GGrandfather :Aaron HENRICKSON was a doctor? He wanted Daniel to follow in his footsteps. However, He was more interested in the sea. His brother Andrew went with the father to California to study medicine.
Grandfather, "Daniel HENRICKSON" spoke only "broken English" all his life & found it difficult to communicate with his family. Sometimes his wife assumed that from Daniel's stories, that he had a brother Andrew and at least 3 sisters, named: Pearl, Annie and Herma.These names he passed on to his own daughters. Whether or not there were more in the family, she doesn't know.
Daniel joined a ship and took 3 years of world sailing before eventually reaching Australia.There he left ship and wandered the countryside finding work. Eventually he could turn to his hand to Blacksmithing, a farrier and watchmaker. He also could make and build with clay bricks.
Cheers Velcro pt1
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My own knowledge of my grandfather separates into two segments, [1] personal and [2] hearsay or word of mouth. I was six years of age when he died, so segment [1] is very limited and sketchy, nonetheless it is committed to writing and appears as under.
[1To me he emerges as a very old, quiet and gentle man wearing a `King Edward' type beard, always in a suit with waist coat and wearing a felt hat.
I often saw him sitting in the sun smoking his `peeper' [pipe]. I rarely heard him speak, although when he sometimes did speak to me I remember that I had to ask my mother [his daughter Pearl] "what did he say" for he spoke in a heavy Finnish accent.
When he died in bed in the `old home' off the Bannister Road out of Boddington, he was surrounded by most of his family (including granny Henrickson) as well as many grandchildren. The funeral service was conducted in the old church at Marradong on a warm but not hot sunny day.
[2 During my early to mid teens [about 1944], and when granny Henrickson made her customary yearly visit, staying for about a month at a time before moving on to visit another of her daughters, I recall that sometimes talking with her about earlier days in the `bush' some anecdotes about Dan would come up.
She told me one time that all the crew on a merchant sailing boat {including Daniel] were frightened out of their minds when they saw a huge sea monster `as large as the boat itself' swimming along just under the surface of the sea and traveling at the same speed as the boat and in a parallel direction. This apparently continued for several hours.
My mother and two aunts at various times relayed something of what he told them. His home town was situated about 14 miles inside the Russo-Finnish border of the 1860`s. This border since changed due to the various wars that raged in Europe at the time. The phonetic name of this town sounded like "Koomeny", but this sound would have been influenced by his heavy Finnish accent. His father was the village "doctor", which probable meant that he was a barber who also tended the sick and performed amputations. Who knows?
Dan, at about the age of 14 years left Finland with his older brother at traveled to England where they both enlisted in the British Merchant Navy. They sailed around the world as crew members for a number of years before being assigned to different sailing boats.
It has been reported that he arrived in New Zealand and stayed for several years. He moved on to Australia and at some stage Dan `jumped' ship when it berthed in Melbourne and seemed to drift toward the Victorian goldfields. History reveals that during the Victorian gold rush whole ship's crew often deserted to journey to the fields, only to return several months later. It is by no means certain that Dan also visited the goldfields, but may have occurred.The first gold was discovered in Western Australia in the Kimberley region in 1885.
He then appears in South West Australia around the Bridgetown area where he married and adopted a life that included Blacksmithing and small mixed farming. He gained a reputation of being able to fix almost anything and appears to have gained universal respect, being referred to as `Old Dan'.
At the same time as the family grew, they seem to have moved from place to place throughout the South-West, as share farmers, only setting roots as the came to Boddington where he finally died.
Summary, including information from other sources.
Daniel left Finland at about the age of 14 years.
His occupation was subsequently recorded as `farm worker'.
He joined the British Merchant Navy and circumnavigated the world several times, and `jumped ship' in Melbourne.
He must have had a sense of adventure.
In latter life it was noted that he signed his name on the birth certificate of one of his elder children with an "X".
He neither read nor wrote English.
He was very quiet and engaged in conversation infrequently.
He retained his heavy Finnish accent and used many Finnish words in his conservation.
He was dexterous and able to understand mechanical problems, fix and repair all manner of items [probably influenced by his time in the merchant navy].
He was adaptable and able to work within the Australian farming community, running a farm, assisting others when required.
It could be concluded from this fragmentary evidence that he had little or no school education, either in Finland or Australia, and that this may have contributed to his, reserved nature.
To compensate for this lack of formal schooling he acquired manual skills [probably as a member of the merchant fleet] which were to be a great attribute in later farming life. He became a adept blacksmith which would be greatly sought after within rural communities.
He may have left the Merchant Navy in New Zealand, moved to Melbourne, Adelaide and possibly Bunbury.
It is hard to imagine him as a surveyor in the WA goldfields for he was unable to read or write in English, but he may have been a staff man or assistant to a qualified surveyor.
Velcro
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His alleged appearance in Adelaide could be explained in terms of him working his passage on coastal shipping that finally saw him in Bunbury. At the time this South-West port was thriving with inter and intra state shipping and it is not far west from the Bridgetown area where Dan worked, married and returned to a rural existence.
The evidence supporting this scenario is not strong, but it is a likely story. Dan is a man surrounded in mystery mainly because of an absence of definitive evidence as to his travels and this is probably all that will ever be known of him.
We can be certain of three things concerning Dan, first that he left Finland, second that he settled in WA and third, that he had a large family.
Other observations. Dan`s father came from Sweden and settled in Finland [Henrickson is a Swedish name]. This is a form of reverse migration for the time as most migration was in the reverse direction, from Finland into southern Sweden.
HENRICKSON = Swedish
HEIKKILA/ HAIKKALA = Finnish.
Finnish (Heikkilä): from the personal name Heikki (derived from German Heinrich; Henry) + the local ending -la, denoting someone from a household headed by someone called Heikki. This personal name was very popular during the Middle Ages, St. Henry being the patron saint of Finland
Cheers
velcro
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Hi again Velcro...
A fascinating story. Thanks for a great read.
Will get into it more tomorrow evening.
Wonder if the "Koomeny" town 14 miles from the border is modern day Kokonniemi. Only about twenty miles from the current border (but about three hundred miles from Brahestad :-)
All the best
Beg
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Wonder if the "Koomeny" town 14 miles from the border is modern day Kokonniemi.
Hi again Velcro...
Found nothing when looking through the Children's Book for Kitee parish, in which Kokonniemi is found.
Will have a look in other parishes near the Russian border.
This may take a while :-)
All the best
Beg
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Dear Beg
I've been researching my mystery ggrandfather for over 20 yrs so a few more makes him more challenging.
Great to have your assistance.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
Still no joy in the search for Daniel but I've asked on a Finnish genealogy board for advice and they had several helpful suggestions.
One was that "a village which sounds like Koomeny" may very well be "Kymmene", which is the Swedish name for Kymi. Kymi is actually 140 miles from the Russian border, not 14 miles so maybe a zero has gone missing over the years.
Have already checked a few parish records for Kymi and surrounding areas. Will keep looking.
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Another good find was an Aron HENRICSSON TORSBERG b.11 Feb 1838 in Kymi who moved to Vyborg (Viipuri) in 1856. Would be nice if he married and had a few sons after his move.
Have yet to find him post-1856 but am checking parish records for Vyborg and surrounding areas.
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Another good idea, but quite expensive, is to check the Finnish Seaman's Register. If Daniel and Andrew were apprentice sailors in Finland they may be listed. Unfortunately, to view the register I think you need to become a member of The Genealogical Society of Finland. The cost is A$50.
Membership gives you access to several databases but there is no guarantee that Daniel, Aron or Andrew are on any of them.
Something to think about.
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Apparently the parish records are all being transcribed, albeit very slowly, to a free database called Hiski. The transcribing is a fairly specialized job. And it's carried out by volunteers. They're currently up to 1850-ish. So maybe keeping an eye on the updates to the Hiski database is the only realistic chance of coming across Daniel.
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Here's a link to the thread I started on the Finnish genealogy board. Some really helpful people over there.
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3228 (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3228)
Regards
Beg
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Hi Velcro...
Can I clarify a few things you wrote in an earlier post.
I have certified copies of his marriage certificate to Susannah PAGE - 17 Sep 1889
28 Sep 1981 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Sheen Henrickson.
20 Aug 1985 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Ehzen Henrickson.
By "certified copies" do you mean that someone in the WA Registry office checked the marriage register, copied out the details and then typed them out onto a certificate.
If so, I'm hoping that Sheen and Ehzen are bad transcriptions of Aaron.
Wondering why you have both a 1981 and a 1985 copy.
Have you seen the original entry in the marriage register or is that not an option in WA. Could be really helpful to see what information Daniel gave, not someone's (mis) interpretation of the info they think he gave.
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Death Certificate states Aaron as Daniel's father. Mother: Eliza unknown
I know that this relative wasn't 100% sure on his background but what was passed on to them from family
How likely is it that the information of this relative/informant was accurate. Was he/she ever likely to have met and talked with Daniel.
Any thoughts as to why Daniel's wife Susannah wasn't the informant.
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Going through very old letters (ones on paper)
Is there any chance at all of sharing those letters. Possibly scanned then either emailed or uploaded to an image sharing website. Especially if Daniel or contemporaries wrote them. A fresh pair of eyes and all that.
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Speaking of which, more interesting thoughts from the Finnish genealogy group...
Andrew = Anders (later Antti),
Pearl = means Helmi, which is a correct name,
Annie = Anna or Anni,
Herma = Herman?? (brother, or is there another alternative; Hilma might be too different?)
Assuming Daniel created an alias, my guess is that he most probably kept his name and slightly altered the date of birth and perhaps his father's name.
Can a family with father Aron and children Anders, Helmi, Anna, Herman and Daniel be found?
Daniel may have been born around 1858-1862
Was the house possibly called Heikkilä?
And a great example of local knowledge...
Let us elaborate what 14 miles could have meant. If the person was of Swedish-speaking background, he may have been speaking of a Swedish mil (Finnish peninkulma) which is close to 10 kilometers. That is 140 km or 88 British miles.
Now if he knew only hearsay information that he could not verify (or did not have any reason to do so), he would have seen 14 miles as a correct expression. But in the English environment it was badly wrong, since it was understood as British miles
In other words 14 Swedish mils is totally different to 14 British miles (about 74 miles of different :-).
Learn something new :-)
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
I really appreciate your help here. Not had this much help for a long while RE: Daniel Henrickson.
Was close to giving up on him.
Q1"By "certified copies" do you mean that someone in the WA Registry office checked the marriage register, copied out the details and then typed them out onto a certificate."
"If so, I'm hoping that Sheen and Ehzen are bad transcriptions of Aaron."
A.Not sure but seems that way. Cant help there either.:-(
Both copies I inherited.
Could see if I could view the original copy of the marriage cert. Not seen as yet the original. Step 1.
How likely is it that the information of this relative/informant was accurate. Was he/she ever likely to have met and talked with Daniel.Any thoughts as to why Daniel's wife Susannah wasn't the informant.
Guess is good as your! No Idea why Susannah wasnt? Time machine would come in handy right now! LOL!
Daniel I have no letters written by him. Had a lot of trouble with English language apparently.
This is the oldest copies of Daniel's records
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1507474&I=1&SE=1 apart from copies of marriage cert.
You'd make a great detective! Like the way you are thinking out side the circle! :-)
Like:
Quotes" Was the house possibly called Heikkilä?" and this...
In other words 14 Swedish mils is totally different to 14 British miles (about 74 miles of different :-). Learn something new every day. Didn't give it a think before.
If I did this? Who would I be asking about? Daniel??? to get the correct person or ask for Daniel Henrickson/Henrickkson??
Cheers
Velcro
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Dear Beg
From page 2.
http://koti.kapsi.fi/~perttuveikko/doku.php?id=saloinen_rk1779
Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.12.1738 Raahe (SL)
hu Beata Mårtensdr Hannila 21.2.1745 Raahe (SL)
VL 16.2.1769
son Matts Henriksson Forbus 29.1.1774 (SL)
son Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.2.1778 (SL)
dr Margareta Henriksdr Forbus 9.1.1780 (SL)
son Aron Henriksson Forbus 2.10.1783 (SL)
usually in Finland and Sweden is k not c, as in Britain
Could this be ancestors?
Cheers
velcro
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Not had this much help for a long while
Hi Velcro...
It's not so much the quantity of help but the quality... hmmmm :-)
It's still needle in a haystack for Daniel in the Finnish parish archives. May need to look further afield e.g Seamans Registers
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Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.12.1738 Raahe
son Aron Henriksson Forbus 2.10.1783
Yes I thought of this Aron HENRIKSSON FORBUS when the Finnish board came up with Aron HENRICSSON FORSBERG. The main problem is that one is in Raahe and the other in Kymi, nearly four hundred miles apart.
Still worth keeping in mind though because their births are also fifty years apart. A lot can happen in that time.
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What did you mean by this...
If I did this? Who would I be asking about? Daniel??? to get the correct person or ask for Daniel Henrickson/Henrickkson??
Don't quite follow what the question was.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Other observations. Dan`s father came from Sweden and settled in Finland [Henrickson is a Swedish name]. This is a form of reverse migration for the time as most migration was in the reverse direction, from Finland into southern Sweden.
HENRICKSON = Swedish
HEIKKILA/ HAIKKALA = Finnish.
Finnish (Heikkilä): from the personal name Heikki (derived from German Heinrich; Henry) + the local ending -la, denoting someone from a household headed by someone called Heikki. This personal name was very popular during the Middle Ages, St. Henry being the patron saint of Finland.
When requesting info on Daniel do I ask about information relating to Daniel Henrickson as he was known here in Australia or is there a Finnish version of his name?
Velcro
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Dear Beg
t's not so much the quantity of help but the quality... hmmmm :-)
Very true!
We are working on it though. Can do only what we can do! LOL!
Just emailed the Finnish Institute of Migration for assistance RE: Daniel and Aaron being documented as Sailors and any other assistance.
Cheers
velcro
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Looked up the Institute of Migration Finland
Search results (Australian Finns database)
Daniel is registered as this was my doing.
Last name First names Year of birth
Henrickson Anthew 1893
Henrickson Anton Victor 1883
Henrickson Charles 1874
Henrickson Daniel 1860
Henrickson Frank 1893
Henrickson John August Leonard 1903
Search results (Reference records)
Last name First names Other name Date of birth
Henrickson Eva Kyräs . .1850
Henrickson Hanna Talbakka (o.s.) 06.01.1866
Henrickson Henrik Tavajärvi 15.03.1842
Henrickson Ida Johanna * . .9999
Henrickson Kalle Kytömäki . .1840
Henrickson Lauri Matti * 16.04.1911
Henrickson Oscar * 24.03.1868
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/gallery/Australia/Sekalaiset%20-%20Miscellaneous/slides/AUS_1258.html (example)
Another thing has always crossed my mind if Henrickson may of been Hendrickson pre WA??
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
Still no luck finding Daniel but here's an update anyway :-)
Lots of words so feel free to just browse.
The bottom line is there's still nothing definite.
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Minnie came across some possible candidates on a Crew Lists CD at Auckland Library.
Anders HENDRIKSON - born c.1858 in Finland - crewman Nov 1879 to Jan 1880 on the Berteaux
Andrew HENDRIKSON - born c.1857 in Finland - crewman Oct 1890 on the Recovery
Daniel HENDRIKSON - born c.1857 in Drammen, Norway - crewman Dec 1881 to Jan 1882 on the Semantha
Here are printouts of the info Minnie found on the CD...
Anders HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxq/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxq/)
Andrew HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxr/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxr/)
Daniel HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxs/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxs/)
It's possible Anders and Andrew are the same person. Would be even better if he was Daniel's older brother.
I asked on the European board for some help tracing the Daniel born in Drammen but there was no sign of him. Possibly Drammen was not his birthplace. Or possibly it was deliberate mis-information.
For the moment I'm turning a blind eye to the spelling of HENDRIKSON.
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If you want to pursue Minnie's info any further you're talking serious money. Basically A$40 an hour. Fortunately you can get an estimate before you commit to anything. The people doing the research are archivists at the Maritime History Archives in Newfoundland, Canada.
Maritime History Archive
Research Services
http://www.mun.ca/mha/research/rgships.php (http://www.mun.ca/mha/research/rgships.php)
The way it works is that the ship aboard which a sailor previously served is mentioned on the crew list. Theoretically an archivist can trace the career of a seafarer backwards step by step through a series of crew lists. Hopefully along the way there will be a mention of a specific birthplace, which you can then use to find the sailor's birth record (although it didn't seem to work in the above Drammen, Norway example).
As I read it, most crew signed on for six-monthly periods. Finding two consecutive six-monthly crewlists seems to equal one hour of research. So to trace five years would be five hours of research....$200....ouch.
But like I said, the archivists give estimates before doing anything.
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Here's an example using two consecutive crewlists for an Andrew HENDRICKSON born c.1846/7
Andrew HENDRICKSON (third from bottom of page)
Born 1846 in Aa?
Crewman on the Olympus
Previous ship the Hengist
Crewlist of the Olympus
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syb/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syb/)
and then moving backwards to his previous ship...
Andrew HENDRICKSON (no.16)
Born 1847 in Aalsund, Norway
Crewman on the Hengist
Previous ship the Loanda
Crewlist of the Hengist
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syc/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syc/)
In theory I should now be able to go to the 1846-47 birth registers for Aalsund (nowadays Ålesund) in Norway and find the birth register entry for this Andrew... (and yes I did try and no I didn't find it :-)
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Like I said earlier it's very expensive to trace further any of the sailor's found by Minnie. But if you were going to I'd suggest either Anders or Andrew. But remember there's no proof that either of them are the brother of your Daniel. There's just as good a chance that they are simply namesakes.
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And continuing the spending money theme...
The Finland Family History Association have digitised and put on-line the 1863-1888 Moving In/Out records for Kymi/Kymenne. These are records of anyone who moved into or moved out of the Kymi parish in that period. If your Daniel's family ever lived in Kymi (as you seem to think) there's a possibility they are mentioned in these records. If they were it should then lead to a residence, which might then lead to birth dates and places.
The catch is that the records are only available to members of the above mentioned FFHA. Annual subscription is $A35.
Again, there's no proof that your Daniel's family ever lived in Kymi/Kymenne, apart from Daniel maybe saying something which sounded like Koomeny. So it may well be a waste of money....although the money supports the FFHA so it's not really wasted.
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I've mentioned the Sailor's Rooms of Finland database before. It's held by the Genealogical Society of Finland but is only accessible on-line for members. I've no idea whether it would be of any use but you have to explore all avenues if you can.
Practitioners of professions:
Sailor rooms in various registers and other lists
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syd/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syd/)
Annual subscription to GenSocFin is $A50
http://www.genealogia.fi/liityjaseneksi.html (http://www.genealogia.fi/liityjaseneksi.html)
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Am still slowly browsing through parish records. I've looked at all of the birth registers for the August 1860 period with no success. I'm now checking through the Children's Books (Lastenkirja) covering the same period. It takes roughly a week to browse through a Children's Book and as there are about 550 parishes I should be finished in about 550 weeks time...somewhere around August 2023...hmmmmmmm
:)
Regards
Beg
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Dear Begs
Thanks so much for all the suggestions. You may realize why Daniel is my "brickwall" ancestor.
Wont give up on him and maybe one day some light may shine and find my long lost relatives?
Dark horse Daniel!
On his Naturalization records say he was a citizen of Finland.
Priastadt written by a scriber as place of Birth but who knows? English spelling not Finnish spelling ????
Much appreciate your help.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi again Velcro...
One of the posters on the Finnish group suggested exploring the Y-DNA path. This is where a living direct male descendant of your Daniel allows a fragment of his DNA to be compared to other male HENRICKSONs world-wide.
There is a DNA pattern passed from father to son which is pretty much unchanged, generation after generation. Daniel got it from his father and shares it with his brothers, all of whom passed it on to their sons who in turned passed it on to their sons etc.
If Daniel had a son, who had a son, who had a son etc. who is willing to have the DNA test he can be added to the HENRICKSON DNA Project. Who knows what will turn up.
It's highly unlikely that there will be an immediate match but once Daniel's male descendant is in the project it will be reassuring to know that a record of Daniel's DNA will be around long after you and I are dust.
HENRICKSON DNA Project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendricks/default.aspx?section=yresults (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendricks/default.aspx?section=yresults)
As ever, there is a cost. Several hundred dollars in this instance.
But first off, do you know of a surviving male descendant who fits the bill and might be interested.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Sounds all well and good. But when it comes to that sort of money probably not.
Daniel did have 3 sons. All 3 passed on now. There are males ancestors alive from Daniel but I'm not in contact with them. I haven't come across any of late that are interested in their family tree. :(
Great idea but how do they check for Daniel's DNA? Dont know of any other Henrickson descendant out of Australia. Realise that it goes into a pool of Henrickson DNA and what if nothing comes of it? 50/50 chance. Ill keep hunting.Im surprised that after all these years I haven't come across someone researching Daniel outside of Australia.
Cheers
Velcro
Cheers
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Great idea but how do they check for Daniel's DNA?
Hi Velcro...
Absolutely appreciate the financial side. It's not cheap by any means. Roughly A$165.
The way I think of the male DNA test is that Daniel had a mobile phone, which he got from his father. Daniel's phone number was 37 digits long. He gave each of his sons an identical mobile phone with the same 37 digit phone number. They in turn gave each of their sons an identical mobile phone with the identical 37 digit phone number. And this family tradition continued right up to the modern day. And is still carried on today.
Over the last few years people have begun compiling phone directories but not by surname. What's important is the 37 digit phone number. Everyone with the same phone number is grouped together, no matter their surname.
They are grouped together because the common 37 digit phone number means that within the last seven or eight generations everyone in the group had a single common male ancestor.
Those in the group who have already worked out their family trees can compare them with each other and hopefully find this common ancestor. If they do it means that everyone in the group, whether or not they have worked out their family tree, is directly descended from this one person.
Finally you will have two indisputable pieces of information about your Daniel. It doesn't matter if he changed his name, age, birth date, birth place, parent's names, sibling's names etc. You have his mobile phone number :) and you know the person to whom the phone originally belonged.
Unfortunately Daniel's not here to answer his phone. But there's an increasing number of people still alive who have the same phone number and are more than willing to help out.
Or at least that's the theory as I mis-understand it :)
Regards
Beg
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Hi Velcro...
Just thought you'd be interested, but don't get your hopes up :-)
I came across a Daniel born on 15 August 1860. Unfortunately he would be an ERIKSSON, not a HENRICKSON. That's assuming he took his father's surname and not the patrynomic JOHANSSON (son of Johan).
This Daniel's father was Johan ERIKSSON but he died when Daniel was eight. I'm wondering if Daniel's mother re-married. Would be nice if she did and it were to an Aron HENRICKSON.
Daniel had an older brother called Johannes b.1857. Unfortunately no Anders. Again I'm hoping for his mother's re-marriage and that he had a half-brother called Anders.
Straws >>> clutch :)
One interesting thing is that this Daniel's 1860 birth was in Tavastby, nowadays Hämeenkylä, which is about ten miles from the current Russian border (according to GoogleMaps). Close to the fourteen miles mentioned in your family story.
The Children's Book says that Daniel was confirmed in Finland in 1877 ***see below This sits okay with him being in Finland then travelling for six years before turning up in Australia in 1883.
It's worth trying to trace him a bit further but I've got a feeling there aren't any later books/registers currently available to the public. At least not without visiting the Finnish National Archives in person.
Have asked for advice from the Finnish genealogy board but their initial thought is that this Daniel is unlikely to be your Daniel. Still worth looking into I think so will do so for a little while.
Virolahti Births - 1851-1873 (Right-hand page, fourth entry down, no.43)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/syntyneet_1851-1873_mko48-68/245.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/syntyneet_1851-1873_mko48-68/245.htm)
Virolahti Children's Book - 1866-1878 (Top of right-hand page)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/lastenkirja_1866-1878_mko29-45/399.htm (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/lastenkirja_1866-1878_mko29-45/399.htm)
***Blifvit admitterad = Has been admitted as a member of the church.
Virolahti is one parish over from Kymi (Koomeny). Bottom left corner.
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=62 (http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=62)
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Wont get hopes up. But you have been the only one maybe so close ??? to a lead.
If we can find that Daniel immigrated or not in Finland up to 1883 then could look a little closer.
Still hard to claim as no idea of parents or real siblings!
But maybe light at end of the tunnel and not a train! LOL!
Thanks for persisting in assisting me in my search for my ggrandfather. Much appreciate it. Gives you encouragement when someone else is sparring you on. I think everyone else has given up or doesn't care.
Look for a death record for this Daniel then we will know one way or another.
Cheers
Velcro
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Don't get your hopes up :-)
I came across a Daniel born on 15 August 1860
Hi Velcro...
Disappointment time again :)
One of the Finnish genealogists found this Daniel in the 1880 and 1885 tax censuses of Finland. Still living in the same area.
Bit of a nuisance.
Back to the drawing board.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Looking at his application for Naturalisation , which is from the National Archives of Australia.
and Stat. Declaration he was born 15 Aug 1860 Priastadt. Obituary states from the West Australia News Paper 21/22 March 1927 Daniel Henrickson of Finnish Nationality born Priastadt and on the 22nd March 1927 news clip states: born at Priastaat. (could be typo for Priastadt).
Certified copies of his marriage certificates dated 1. 28 Sep 1981 Father as Sheen Henrickson 2.
dated 20 Aug 1985 Father Ehzen Henrickson.Father being a farmer.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi again Velcro...
Still zero progress to report :)
Have been wandering through the 1860's and 1870's censuses for Raahe/Brahestad looking for signs of a Daniel or an Aron. To be honest, nothing that promising. I really do wish the Finnish government would index their genealogical resources.
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I was just wondering if you'd seen the probate file for Daniel HENRICKSON held at the State Records Office in Perth. It has a 75 year restriction but assuming probate was granted a few weeks after Daniel's death then it's possible that the 75 year restriction has been lifted in the last week or two.
Seriously doubt if the probate holds anything relating to Daniel's parents or siblings but it can't hurt to look.
If you've not seen the file I'm happy to send off an email on your behalf to the State Records Office and see what the story is regards access.
Item No. - 1938/0639
Item Title - Daniel Henrickson
Record series containing this item - 34 - FILES - PROBATE
Item Access Status - Restricted 75 years
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t4h/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t4h/)
Regards
Beg
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Hi again...
Just continuing on from my previous post (which I can no longer edit)
I sent an email off to BDM WA asking about the different names for Aaron that they came up with on Daniel's marriage certificate. The helpful person who replied said that after looking at the original marriage register she thought the name looked like Ehran, which I reckon is close enough to Aaron as makes no difference. If you consider that Daniel neither spoke, read nor wrote English then his Registrar did a reasonably good job.
If you want a scan of the original marriage register for yourself then BDM WA will send you one for free as long as you return to them the two other marriage certificates currently in your possession.
Personally I don't think seeing a scan will make that much difference but if you want I'll send you the address to which you can send the two marriage certificates.
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Really annoyed that WA marriage certificates had no requirement for details of the bridal couple's mothers. Grrrr....as they say.
What did the marriage certificate give as the occupation of the groom's father. Was it "Doctor" as in your family stories, or something else.
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You wrote in one of your earlier posts that you have some old letters from that time period. Is there any way at all that you can upload them to the net. Maybe ask for help from a local genealogy group or computer group. Possibly there's a Rootschatter living near you who can help.
I would hate for there to be something overlooked which might help in the search.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Been looking at the New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973.
This collection on Family Search has been enhanced by a further 105000 plus records. Details you find in search results may contain some or all of the following:
Full name of each passenger
Adult or child
Male or female
Country of emigration
Place where ship landed when immigrated
Estimated age
Occupation
Total cost of passage and how paid
Name of ship and port of embarkation
Port of destination and date of arrival.
There are now some 330000 images in the collection, which you can find here:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792
I have typed in Daniel and Aaron Henrickson but nothing positive yet.
I have the address of the WA BDM Registration:
Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages
PO Box 7720
Cloisters Square
Perth WA 6850
The Manager of Customer Services replied to my email about the 2 different Father's names on Daniel certified copy of his Marriage cert. Having Sheen on one and Ezhen on the other.
Her reply was:The Registry issues a certified copy of the marriage registration. Unless there has been some correction done to a registration between issuing certificates, each certified copy for the same marriage should be the same.
If you have differing information on a Western Australian marriage between copies I suggest you post these documents to this office with a covering letter explaining your query.
This is what I will do.
His Naturalisation records have Aaron as his father but this also was scribed for him.
The letters were from family members who also attempted to research his Finnish family and a couple even went to Finland to try to find any family members but were unsuccessful.
I have been in touch with a member of the family who has a family website now but still has no records of Daniel's birth place or parents and siblings still.
There is nothing in the letters that I haven't already mentioned and would just be repeating all over again.
Thank you for being supportive in my search for Daniel's past life.
Can I copy and attach copies with the different cert. marriage certs here? Father's occupation was Farmer.
On his death cert. Father documented as Aaron Henrickson too.
Stated on his naturalisation records he was in Adelaide SA for 9 months then worked for Mr Edward Keane in WA on the Midland Railways. Mr Edward Vivian Harvey Keane bb.8.8.1844 England -d.9.7.1909 Perth WA came from SA before coming to Western Australia to give a hand in the construction of the Upper Darling Range Railways and Company Manager of Midland Railway Company which Daniel may of met him in SA.It says he worked for over 3 years on the Midland Railways possibly from Midland Junction to Walkaway, near Geraldton WA. M r Edward H Keane was a prominent Perth Business man.Consrtuction began before August 1890.
An email from Finland stated that Finns in the period 1880's often were recorded as Russians in Australian records because Finland was part of the Russian empire. Also according to ships books from Raahe and Aland when sailed to Australia in this period it was common for seaman to desert when coming to Australia.Finnish sailors sailed on British ships especially as carpenters apparently.
There are 4 Finnish sailors documented "Extract of the book at Battye Library WA Biographical Index of South Australia Vol 2 Page 731." Arrived 1883.
1. John Henrickson b. 1842
2. Joseph Henrickson b. 1859 Norway
3.Karl Henrickson b. 1855 Russia
4.Osker Krist b. 1851 Russia
no help here.
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi again Velcro...
Seems we did the same thing contacting BDM WA. I'll send you a PM (Private Message) with a copy of the email I received back from them. It gives a contact name at the address you already have. I read it as they'll exchange the old marriage certificates for a scan of the marriage register entry.
Do you want me to email the State Records Office and ask if Daniel's probate is still restricted. Or do you know anyone in Perth who can drop in to the SRO.
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I was hoping that some of the family letters you mentioned were written by Daniel but obviously that's not the case. I guess the info has been gone over repeatedly.
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Here's something interesting but not really all that helpful, so feel free to skip :)
You mentioned in your latest post a Joseph HENRICKSON b.1859 in Norway who arrived in South Australia in 1883. I had a quick look and came across this...
1875 Norway Census - Hammerfest, Norway
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=2001&kenr=002&bnr=0161 (http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=2001&kenr=002&bnr=0161)
The sixth name on the list is a "Josef HENDRIKSEN Lommijerve b.1859"
Nothing to say it's the same Joseph but this Joseph was born in Kemi, Finland. His older brother Johan was born in "Kemi i rusisk Finland", which translates as "Kemi in Russian Finland".
It seems as though there is a parish called Kemi up in north west Finland. Maybe "Koomeny" is Kemi in the north-west, not Kymi down in the south.
Also Kemi is not too far away from Brahestad/Raahe. Wonder where the Russian border was.
Raahe to Kemi - Google Maps
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t5h/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t5h/)
Both of the brothers are mariners, in that they are fishermen (Fisker).
Both of the brothers are unmarried (ug)
Unfortunately their father's name is Hendrik ISAKSEN, not Aron HENRICKSON. Their father Hendrik is a day-labourer (Dagarbeider) married to Britha Grethe HANSEN.
However, living at the same address is an Aron HENDRIKSEN. He is the twelfth name on the list. He was born in Kaino, Sweden. He is a carpenter (Tømmermand) married to Grethe ARONSEN. They have two daughters, Maria and Ida.
The entire residence is occupied by Finns. The "kk" in the "Etnisitet" (ethnicity) column means both father and mother are Finnish.
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A few hits....a Swedish-born Aron. Kymi/Kemi gets a mention. Possibly a Brahestad connection. Sea-faring occupation. Josef's name ties in with your 1883 arrival info.
A few misses...no-one called Daniel. Wrong father. 1875 is right at the limit for still being at "home", although I guess technically Kemi is Josef's home, not Hammerfest.
I've had a quick look for an earlier or later census listing but there's nothing obvious. I may need to look harder.
It makes for a good read and it shouldn't be too hard to fill in the details as Lommijerve is a handy clue. I might look into it one day but ultimately it won't prove anything as the search is for someone called Daniel HENRICKSON, not Josef HENDRIKSEN.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Thank you for your on going support. We just completed a cruise to the Baltic and included Helsinki. What a disappointment that I have no hard evidence to connecting families in Finland while we were there. I keep thinking positive and have no one to look up the state records but if you want to email them please feel free to do so.
Cheers
Velcro
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Dear Beg
Found this after all this time. http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3228&p=11933&hilit=Etsi%E2%80%A6#p11933
What did you eventually sum up from our enquires for me? Parents and siblings of Daniel Henrickson/Henricsson?
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro :-)
Will need to re-read the thread and all of the other notes that I have but I'm fairly sure the outcome had us none the wiser.
I wonder if any other Finnish resources have come on-line since I started that thread. Nearly a year ago! Tempus fugit :-)
Will get back to you but it may well be a few days.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Closets I found records are:
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/519276?en+0261+kastetut+13032
Kymi - Kymmene
Christened
Link to this event [ 4035394 ]
Born / Christened 9.8.1860 19.8.1860
Village / Farm Huruksela Rysä
Father Bd Henrik Henriksson
Mother Anna Maria Sylvestersdotter 23
Child Daniel
Godparent Skräds Gustaf Gustafsson
Godparent Inh Anders Andersson
Godparent Anna Samuelsdotter
Own comment
Original comment
Links SSHY - Digiarkisto
If a death record for him in Finland then not mine! But still leaves it open.
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
I've had a re-read of the many threads... whew :-)
Lots to take in but the bottom line is we're still no closer to Daniel's origins than we were a year ago.
Here are some thoughts...
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Daniel b.9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
Son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER
In Reply #35 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=629681.msg4791354#msg4791354) you say the following:
1) The father Henrik died in 1868
2) The mother Anna Maria remarried in 1875 to Tobias ERIKSSON
I agree :-) as the Church Registers covering the above death and re-marriage are free to view on-line.
You also say that at the time of the re-marriage this Daniel was still living with his mother Anna Maria. I'm fairly sure the "Household Register" which would prove/disprove this is not viewable on-line unless you are a member of the Finnish Family History Association (FFHA) a.k.a "Suomen Sukuhistoriallinen Yhdistys" (SSHY).
And finally you say that a few years after the re-marriage this Daniel moved around a bit - to Anjala in 1881, to Strömfors in 1882 and to Lapinjärvi in 1885. The first two moving records are free to view on-line but again I suspect that the third record is not viewable on-line unless you are a member of the FFHA.
Which brings me to a point I raised many months ago, namely that it's in your own interest to join the FFHA. To sort out this Daniel from Rysä you need to view the post-1870 Kymi "Household Registers" as they will show whether or not the Daniel living with his mother at the time of her re-marriage and the Daniel who leaves for Anjala in 1881 are one and the same person. These "Household Registers" are viewable online only by members of the FFHA.
Personally I think the two Daniel's are separate people. The Daniel who travels to Anjala, then on to Strömfors is Daniel HEIKINSSON. I appreciate that "Heiki" is an informal version of "Henrik" but I find it hard to believe that Daniel HENRIKSON from Rysä would change his surname to an informal HEIKINSON considering it's an official document.
Having said that, I appreciate that when arriving in Anjala the document says that Daniel HEIKINSON came from Rysä and was born in 1860. But the easiest way to sort this out would be to view the 1881 "Household Register" for Kymi. It would clearly show whether or not the traveller is Daniel, son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER... and the only way to view the "Household Register" is to join FFHA.
AUD$42-ish for one year of access to a huge number of resources.
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The thread I started on the Finnish genealogy website has an interesting lead which I didn't follow up. There is an Aron HENRIKSSON b.1838 in Kymi. He can be traced up to 1856 and then goes missing. Well worth having a second look at him, although I suspect the reason he was put to one side was (again) the necessary registers are not viewable on-line unless you belong to the FFHA.
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What you should also have a re-think about is the Y-DNA suggestion I and others have made. It really is worth your making the effort to trace and make contact with a male descendant of Daniel. This descendant's Y-DNA may not find a match in our lifetime but I would put money on it finding a male descendant of Daniel's father within half a dozen generations. Your g-g-g-g-g-genealogist-descendant will bless you for your foresight in obtaining a near-identical DNA sample of Daniel.
And more importantly Daniel's family will be found.
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The two other leads that I'll look into are a) the British Navy angle and b) Daniel's brother and father supposedly ending up in the USA. I've not really made any effort there so will see what happens.
Ever onwards :-)
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Thanks for your time and will re think what thoughts you have on Daniel.
Cheers
Velcro
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Daniel b.9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
Son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER
Daniel HEIKINSSON - moved to Anjala in 1881, to Strömfors in 1882
Hi Velcro...
Just a quick note...I've been talking to the FFHA people and, wouldn't you know it, the specific Kymi "Household Register" you need to view hasn't been put on-line. The ones either side are viewable but not the ones from 1870 to 1890. Those years are only viewable on microfiche. I'm guessing it would require a trip to Finland to view the microfiche.
Bit of a nuisance but there is a Plan B :)
I'm pretty sure you can loan the Kymi microfiche from FamilySearch. They will post the microfiche out to you but charge $5 per item. Two microfiche cover Huruksela but to be sure of finding Daniel you might need to order all of Kymi. This means ordering about a dozen microfiche, so $60-ish. Ouch!!
Bit of a nuisance but there is a Plan C :)
The Daniel HEIKINSSON who moves to Anjala in 1881 can still be found via FFHA as they have the 1881-82 Anjala "Household Registers" online in their members-only area. Finding this Daniel HEIKINSSON in the Anjala registers should be enough to prove if he is the Daniel HENRIKSON born 9 Aug 1860 on the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi. The "Household Register" nearly always lists a person's date of birth.
If the Daniel HEIKINSSON in Anjala was not born on 9 Aug 1860 then you'll have to think about ordering the Kymi microfiche from Family Search.
EDIT:
There may even be a Plan D :)
One of the helpful people on the Finnish board suggested emailing the Kymi Parish office directly as they should hold all of the original registers that have been microfilmed and/or microfiched. Will think about it for a while as I don't really want some member of the church running around doing genie research. I'm sure they have more important things to do....but it is a good idea.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Thanks for that. If we could as yu say find Daniel l Henrickson Rysa death records then know it isnt my ggrandfather. Then back to square 1.
cheers
Velcro
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Hi Velcro...
Just wondering if you've seen the following item at National Archives of Australia
Henrickson, Andrew
Nationality: Russian Finnish
Alien Registration Certificate No 359/18 issued 2 March 1918 at Babinda
Babinda is in Queensland, not WA, but it still might be worth a look if you know anyone visiting Canberra.
Regards
Beg
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Thanks Beg. Not seen this before but I think the National Archives are online and don't know anyone going or in Canberra.
Velcro
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Daniel Henrickson 1918 was married with 12 children.
Andrew may of been a brother?
Cheers
Velcro
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Andrew Henrickson
[Andrew Renrechsen]
Age in 1910:19
Birth Year:abt 1891
Birthplace:Finland
Home in 1910:
Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
Race:White
Gender:Male
Immigration Year:1910
Relation to Head of House:Boarder
Marital status:Single
Father's Birthplace:Finland
Mother's Birthplace:Finland
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name
Age
John T Aalto 26
Anna N Aalto 22
Martin J Aalto
Nestor Henrickson
1910 census in United States
Andrew Henrickson
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1891
Age:28
Port of Departure:Cape Town
Port of Arrival:Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date:24 Feb 1919
Vessel Name: Conqueror
wife as Zora Lillie Richardson.
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Daniel b.9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
Son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER
Hi Velcro...
A very kind soul has gifted me a subscription to the Finnish Family History Association. It was either that or a new bicycle helmet.
I've been able to check the birthdate of the Daniel HEIKINSSON who moved to Anjala by finding him in the 1880-1889 Anjala Household Register. His birthdate is 9 Aug 1860. The Household Register says he came from the Rysä farm in Kymi in 1881 and that he moved to Strömfors in November 1882.
I know you already had the Anjala/Strömfors info but I've not been able to see the actual records with my own eyes until now.
So as far as I'm concerned this Daniel is definitely the son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER and he was born 9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
And as this Daniel is still in Finland in 1882 he is also definitely not your Daniel. As you know according to his naturalisation papers your Daniel, the son of Aaron HENRIKSON, left Finland in 1877, sailed the seven seas for six years, then ended up in Australia in 1883.
The alternative is that your Daniel was lying on his naturalisation application and he actually left Anjala in 1882 and sailed straight to Australia. But if you start doubting his naturalisation application then you may as well give up. If he lied about his movements he may have lied about his name, date of birth, country of origin etc etc...that way lies madness :-)
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There are quite a few records available on the FFHA members database. I'm browsing them as and when. If anything interesting pops up I'll let you know.
Regards
Beg
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Dear Beg
Great choice you made.. I'd do the same. Thanks for looking for me. So basically back to square 1!:-(
Mystery man Daniel. Everyone one needs a brick wall or two to make they family tree more challenging done they? Thanks for continual support with my research.
Cheers
Velcro