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Any info gratefully received. Alfred Ford born approx 1818. On most of his census returns from 1841 to 1891 ( died 1894) he states he was born in Camberwell, Surrey. He was a Surgeon and gives his fathers name as Richard Ford ( gentleman) on his marriage cert in 1839. The name Napier is also associated with him, but how or why, I have not been able to find out :-\
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You could try FreeREG, as there are a couple of Richard Ford's born around the right time for Alfred's father, and on the 1841 census there is a Richard Ford b 1776, wife Sarah b1791 children Sarah 1811, Florence 1825, Alexander 1823, and Frederick 1827. Alfred could have fitted in between Sarah and Florence, but of course he had married by then. All living in Richmond.
regards.
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There is a bulk christening in 1837at St Mary Abbotts Kensington parents Richard & Sarah-fathers occ Law Genealogist.
Names tie in with the Richmond family paco has found and they include an Alfred :)
1841 census has his occupation as Genealogist, none of the family were born in the county.
27th December 1837 - Abode Ladbrooke Terrace.
Sarah Ann
Ellen Matilda
Margaret Louisa
Richard Henry
Alfred
Benjamin Alexander
Florence Lucy
Frederick Augustus
Possible deaths for Richard & Sarah
March qtr 1842 - Ford Richard Richmond 4 289
March qtr 1844 Ford Sarah Richmond Sry 4 289 wrong one age 21 as per burial
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Many thanks for both replies. I had been aware of the family on Ancestry that you both speak of but without anything concrete I'm not sure. I had tracked the marriage of Frederick Augustus Ford in 1848 who was then an Architect and his father Richard, occupation Lawer as well as the 1844 marriage of Benjamine Alexander occ ( I could not make it out) father Richard described as Gent. Seems funny that all the other children had a second name except Alfred, maybe this is where the name Napier comes in but being older he could object to it being on the record.
Would someone that was a surgeon back then had to of gone to University? Would there be any records of Medical school where I'm assuming that his father would of paid for him to attend?
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as well as the 1844 marriage of Benjamine Alexander occ ( I could not make it out)
Chemist & Druggist :)
I wonder if the Royal College of Surgeons could help.
He certainly qualified quickly - born c1818 and practicing (as per marriage) in 1839. ;D
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The family seem to start calling themselves Napier-Ford around the time of his second marriage. Maybe it was a status thing. None of them seem to have been christened using Napier in their name.
I see he was bankrupt just before his death.
Rosie
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Thank you Rosie. Where did the info come from that he was bankrupt please?
On the death cert of Alfred he is registered as Alfred Napier Ford. The Informant was his eldest son Francis (from his first marriage) I believe this name may go back a generation or so and is a middle name of Alfred. Francis records his name on the cert just as Ford.
Alfreds 2nd wife, Florence Selwyn (nee) Drew was living on own means in 1901 with a parlour maid, housemaid, Governess ( domestic) and cook + various family members and several visitors. In the 1911 census she was still living on private means but she was a visitor so I don't know how many servants she may of had. She died in 1928 and the index of wills/probate state her effects to be worth 4k +, so maybe she had money in her own right?
I could only find the baptism of 1 of their children, that was Ida Jessie in 1893. The name Napier-Ford seems to have become double barrelled then.
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Hi
Notes and Queries 1909
"Ford Family and Arms. To which family of Ford does the crest of a lion rampant and a demi-lion rampant Ealing?
I shall be glad if anyone can give me the pedigree of the family of Richard Ford, genealogist, born in or about 1776 (probably at Somerset). He died at the Vicarage, Kew in 1842, having previously resided at Worcester Park House Surrey and 5 Ladbrooke Terrace, Nottinghill. He had a large family.
My grandfather Dr. Alfred Ford had the pedigree when he was living at Pimlico about 1856.
Please reply direct.
Arthur Napier-Ford
Homestead ?xondge Road Surbiton"
http://www.archive.org/stream/s10notesqueries12londuoft/s10notesqueries12londuoft_djvu.txt
Also worth checking Notes and Queries for Somerset and Devon as Arthur may have given further information in that source.
Confirming some of the information already given and adding a bit more
March quarter 1842
Richmond registration district
Richard Ford
Volume 4 Page 289
This registration district would cover Kew.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/richmond1.html
1841 census HO107 1075 Bk17 Folio 19
Vicarage Kew Surrey
Richard Ford 65 Genealogist
Sarah Ford 50
Sarah Ford 30 ind
Florence Ford 16
Alexander Ford 18
Frederick Ford 14
One female servant
No-one born in county
London Gazette 1844
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/20338/pages/1427
Benjamin Alexander Ford married in 1844 at St George Bloomsbury. He was tried at the Old Bailey in 1846 for fraud and was sentenced to be transported for seven years. He was not transported and was sentenced again at the Old Bailey for a similar offence in 1849 this time to be transported for 10 years.
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-1526-18460817&div=t18460817-1526#highlight
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-412-18490101&div=t18490101-412#highlight
1851 census HO107 1857 folio 604
Portland Convict Prison Dorset
Alexander Ford 29 Prisoner Married Druggist Bath Somerset
He was transported later that year to Tasmania
http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/om7567
Florence Lucy may also have been born in Bath. On the 1851 census she is a visitor. Florence Lucy married George Pearson in Hampshire in 1852 and lived thereafter in Lancashire.
Regards
Valda
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I would suggest that you look at The Times newspaper, that is where I found the bankruptcy. There is also The Times (London, England), Tuesday, Aug 25, 1885; pg. 1; Issue 31534.
Category: Classified Advertising when he changes his name to Napier Ford :)
The notice about bankruptcy was
'Queen's Bench Division.'
The Times (London, England), Friday, May 06, 1892; pg. 13; Issue 33631.
In the same paper there are also birth notices for one of his children and mention of his second marriage.
Rosie
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Thank you Valda and Rosie so much for all your help. Could I just ask what exactly a Law Genealogist is? I have looked on the net and it came up with a Genealogist that has a law degree! would he have specialised in tracing someons lineage for inheritance purposes maybe?
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Hi
The term seems to be placed with antiquarian. I'd speculate (therefore not sure) that it was a knowledge of antiquated laws as well as law of the present time which in the context of genealogy would be important for inheritance claims and lucrative with many such claims endlessly bogged down in Chancery. It wouldn't mean a necessary legal qualification. Advertising as a genealogist stating you were a law genealogist would hopefully get you more clients.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarndyce_and_Jarndyce
Regards
Valda