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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: Earlsdau on Sunday 30 December 12 12:07 GMT (UK)
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Hoping someone may have some genious idea to help me. ::)
An alleged ancestor named Jane Gruzelier/Gruselier/Grusilier from Paul in Cornwall has me stumped. I have her marriage record to William Hoskin on 21 Jan 1740 (1739 in former calendar). I cannot locate a baptism record in order to elicit her approx year of birth or her parent's names.
I have found an Isaac Gruzelier who was also from Paul and was married in St. Buryan on 15th Feb 1731/2. Perhaps this could be a brother but he too seems not to have a baptismal record.
I have checked Cornwall OPC Databases, CFHS database, FindMyPast and Family Search.
Any suggestions?
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Hi
The following is a link to someone connected to the Gruzelier family - it may help
http://www.flaxman2000.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/NewFiles/Gruzelier.html
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Hi
A little more info but not what you asked for, still, it may help:
Willm. Hoskin & Jane Gruzilier ... ... 21 Jan. 1739
Thomas Rowe & Mary Gruzilier ... ... 23 Feb. ,,
This comes from a transcript i have of Paul Marriages, unfortunately there is no more info on the transcript.
I see you have listed several search sites but not FreeReg which, when i searched, finds the info you have and a few/bit more (especially if you use the soundex search option).
May take you a bit further. If you need any more marriages from Paul i can look them up for you.
Ta
ccrail
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Thank you both for your responses.
Thanks too ccrail for the heads up on the FreeReg site. I will look into that. I'm assuming the Paul transcript is more concise than trawling through all the originals....so I may just get you to help me on that?
Earlsdau
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the record office in Truro holds the will of Isaac Gruzalier, mariner of Paul, (HMS Exeter) which was proved in 1749 ref AP/G/7021. You can get a copy from there
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14713
The record office catalogue search
http://crocat.cornwall.gov.uk/DServe/searchpage.htm
shows up references to Gruzelier's/Grewzelier's premises in Newlyn - "late in the occupation of Andrew Grewzeliers cooper".
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Another Cruzelier I came across in my own search is "John Richards at Paul married Frances Cruzelier also in 1726".
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Osprey and Graylight thank you both for your input.
Information on Gruzelier/Cruselier certainly seems to be thin on he ground though. I may go to the Truro record office and followup on these suggestions when I am in the U.K, hopefully sometime in 2013.
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You can look at many of the actual Parish Records at this site coutesy of the Mormon Church
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13194-127036-82?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-VLJ:n810820941#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fcollection%2F1769414%2Fwaypoints
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Thanks Graylight. They are quite amazing aren't they but I sort of need to have some direction as to which years to look up? I have found a couple of Gruzelier's in those.....but they are the only ones....sorry got to go, my phone is ringing!
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if you're visiting the Record Office, remember to book as you don't want to travel and then find there's no room or it's the first week of the month and the office isn't open to the public.
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14569#Openinghours
You can search on the indexed FamilySearch and then look up the record with the date of events. Search for say, Cruzelier, any event in Cornwall, there's a page or so of results in Penzance and Paul
including more variants - Crusilievre, Crusilear https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1473014
Could this be your Jane?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NGMV-TJX
2 Isaacs, possibly the first one died
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NGMV-WMW
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J39P-YJZ
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Thanks for the heads up on Truro, Osprey! Will put a 'booking' on my to-do list!
That Jane could be the one, except with a marriage in 1740 that would make her 37 at the time of her marriage. Then she went on to have six children the last one being a baptism in 1751. Not impossible I guess. I need to find out when William Hoskin, her spouse, was born. That may help.
Thanks a heap!
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finding a William Hoskin is easier said than done, rather a common name in the area.
::)
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Aren't they all? If I never see another Elizabeth, Thomas, William and Mary again....I'll be more than happy. Apologies to anyone with those names! ;D
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another thought is that Jane may have been a widow at the time of her marriage?
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May i suggest the gruzelier family came from France or Belguim or similiar....as an offbase suggestion since you cant find much evidences in UK.....
tis only a thought...
;)
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the family is in the area from at least the 1690s, it's just a convincing baptism for Jane that is elusive. And it's a name that lends itself to variants.
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Hi,
You may find this book of interest:-
An account of the families of Boase or Bowes, originally residing at Paul and Madron in Cornwall; and of other families connected with them by marriage, etc. (1876).
Only one Gruzelier, Frederick John on Page 21 - but did not download PDF!
I do not find the search engine very good, so I always download PDF for the books.
The connection is:-
http://audio31.archive.org/details/accountoffamilie00boas
There are other books re Cornwall on www.archive.org
Enter Cornwall Parish Registers or Cornwall.
Spendlove
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Thank you to osprey, spendlove and fastfusion for your suggestions. I will follow up on those links also. You guys are awesome!