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My Great Great Grandfather was in Canada with the Army in the 1840s - he married into the Muttart Family but conveniently forgot he was already married in England and had children.
Where can I find a record of his Canadian marriage and the birth of his daughter?
he was called William Henry Griggs and he married Mary Ann Muttart and their daughter was called either Louise or Louisa
GCE
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I works!!!
Thank you
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The Drouin Collection at ancestry.ca has a baptismal record for Louisa Ann Greggs, d/o William greggs, Corporal in the Grenadier guards and Mary, his wife (no maiden name given). Louisa b. 17 June 1842 and baptized 23 Oct 1842 at Anglican Garrison, Quebec.
An online family at ancestry shows a marriage for Louisa to William Morse 23 Apr 1863 Middlesex, Engl and death 03 Jun 1943 Queensland, Australia. The same tree shows a sister, Mary Adeline, born 2 Oct 1844 Chelsea and death Jul 1849, brother William Henry 1848-1915 and another sister, Emily b. 1851. This tree shows William Henry Griggs b. 1810 and d. 1849.
Their tree shows Griggs with Greggs in brackets for the surname spelling.
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Thank you - very helpful!
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Hi GCE and Cosmac
I appreciate this is an old thread
I have been researching Wm Henry Griggs/Greggs b1846 so I am very interested in your comments regarding an earlier marriage in England. The GRO shows Muttart to be the MMN for Mary, Wm henry, and Emily. My uncle is descended from Wm Henry who married Martha Wake
Can you say who was the earlier spouse and do you have any earlier detail on the Griggs line, please?
Thanks, Tony
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I will look at my research and let you know.
GCE
I am also descended from Wm Henry who married Martha Wake
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He first Married Emma Wratten.
He went to Canada with the army and married Mary Muttart.
Interestingly Mary, after William died, went on to have 2 or 3 children and if you look at their births she gives William as their father. Given that he had been deceased for a few years it was obviously a lie.
William, their son, who married Martha Wake was my grandmother Emily Adeline's father.
GCE
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Interestingly Mary, after William died, went on to have 2 or 3 children and if you look at their births she gives William as their father. Given that he had been deceased for a few years it was obviously a lie.
Have you seen the actual birth certificates? If there is no father named and only the mother is named as GRIGGS formerly MUTTART then they will be indexed as GRIGGS with mother's maiden surname as MUTTART.
Wasn't it only Emily who was born after William had died?
Debra :D
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I have seen copies of the birth certificates that a Griggs relation had who contacted me through a family history site. Definitely named as father.
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Emily died in 1851 so could possibly be legitimate chold of William.
Then there arecm 3 half siblings born to Emma Wratten before William went to Canada. Then 2 other half siblings born to Mary Muttart several years after William's death.
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Thank you GCE,
There still seems to be some sorting out about for which children Mary Ann Muttart was really the mother. UK GRO says 3 but it would not cover Louisa unless she was also born in the UK (she wasn't)
My aunt married Walter Benham, whose mother was Emily Adelina Griggs, whose father was Wm Henry (m Martha Wake), whose father was William (m Wratten and Muttart) ... then I have his father was Wm (m Jane Auborn) - all settled in Bedfordshire
I have more detail I am trying to validate and share. Do you have Wm Henry's military record? Do you have the Muttart marriage record?
Ill collate my notes later if that is ok. Looks like we are reasonably close cousins genealogy speaking!
Yes Dundee - Only Emily born after William died
My email is antony.thurston@gmail.com
Thank you both for replying
Tony