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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: senteacher on Wednesday 26 December 12 10:43 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for information about Gladys May Sanderson, born Dec 1909 in Barrow in Furness, England. She emigrated to Canada on 22 Jun 1923 aboard the Regina with her mother, Eva May nee Richardson. They joined her father, William Henry Sanderson, an electrical engineer, at 394 Valois Ave, Montreal. William died around about 1933. At the time they were living at 1808 Aird Ave, Montreal. My great grandmother went out to nurse her brother but we have no information about what happened to Gladys or her mother following his death.
I would really appreciate any help whatsoever to further my search.
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Hi there :).
Are you sure it is William who died in 1933? The Drouin Collection (parish records on line through Ancestry) has a burial record for Gladys May Sanderson of 1808 Aird Av. She died 05 May 1933. She was buried in Mount Royal Cemetery 10 May 1933. Trinity United Church Montreal.
William appears in the Montreal Directory at the same address until 1943. In 1944 we have Mrs Eva Sanderson Wid Wm at this address and then she disappears from the directory.
http://bibnum2.bnquebec.ca/bna/lovell/
Here is a link to Mount Royal cemetery. Scroll to the bottom and click on Genealogy. You can then locate burials for Gladys (1933), William (1944), and Eva (1953). These burial records can be ordered for a small fee. You don't need to put a date in, just the names.
http://mountroyalcem.com/index.php/en/our-cemeteries/mount-royal-cemetery.html
The Drouin Collection is only available up to about 1941, although there are a few records beyond that date. Thus, there do not appear to be burial records on line for William and Eva. Civil records of such events did not begin in Quebec until the 1990s so there will only be a parish record or a cemetery record.
If your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition you would have access to the Drouin Collection and the original image of Gladys' burial record.
PB :)
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Thank you so much. I always wondered why we never heard anything about the family. My great grandmother returned home to England on 20th July 1933 so she must have nursed Gladys. I now have to find out why the story changed. Is there any way I can find out what Gladys died of or if there are any obituaries?
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I don't believe you would find a cause of death unless it was mentioned in an obit. There is nothing in the parish record. Mount Royal Cemetery burial records apparently do not include cause of death.
Montreal newspapers at the time would have been the Montreal Star and the Montreal Gazette. I don't remember off hand if they have online archives but I don't think so. A google should find that info for you, however. The Montreal Star is no longer published. Library and Archives Canada (LAC) would have copies but I'm not sure if they would do a lookup. The library at McGill University in Montreal may also have newspaper copies but again I don't know whether they would consider lookups.
Sorry to not be of more specific help in this regard but a bit of googling around may turn up something for you and given you have a specific death date for Gladys you might just get some help through LAC, although from their website it doesn't look promising other than through interlibrary loan.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/newspapers-at-lac/index-e.html
PB
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Archives of the Montreal Gazette are available online at http://news.google.ca/newspapers.
There is a brief death notice for Gladys May on page 7 of the 8 May 1933 edition:
http://news.google.ca/newspapers?nid=Fr8DH2VBP9sC&dat=19330508&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
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Thank you very much for the info about the Gazette archives, LindaGW. I have bookmarked it for future reference.
PB
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Thank you from me too. Sorry for the late response but have just found your post.
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I see from the parish register burial record that Gladys died at the Grace Dart Hospital, now part of another hospital but it was founded as a TB sanatorium and remained one for decades as far as I know.....when I lived in Montreal it was still a sanatorium.
Cheers,
China
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That would make a lot of sense. It had to be something life threatening for my great grandmother to make the journey from Wallsend, Northumberland to Montreal, Canada. Could Gladys' father have been suffering from TB too, but survived for another ten years? :-\
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Well....looking into it a bit, I came across a statistic from 1916 that even under the best sanatorium conditions, 50% of patients died within 5 years. Horrifying. But it also indicates that the other 50% did not die within 5 years, so there's a chance that Gladys' father could have had the disease but survived longer.
There's a latent TB wherein the patient has the disease but doesn't exhibit symptoms...yet. There are also other forms of the disease that manifest in other parts of the body...spinal TB is the one I have heard of. That would have to be horribly painful and debilitating. But I don't know the survival rates.
Cheers,
China
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Thanks, China. I read a bit about the outbreak in the 1930s in Canada. It must have been devastating. Apparently the Inuit people were taken miles away from their homes and families to try to prevent the spread in their close-knit communities. I'm beginning to wonder whether Gladys might have been a nurse. I doubt that she would have been doing nothing at the age of 23. Any ideas on how I could find out?
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Well, I've had a look around the internet but come up with nothing I'm afraid :P
She says she wasn't tubercular when she arrived, but that doesn't mean much.
If you load 1808 Avenue Aird into Google Maps you can see the street where she lived, and the street view will give you an even better idea. I couldn't see 1808 though...1806 and 1810 but no 1808, frustrating. There are three doors on the second floor of 1810 (1814 on the ground floor), so the middle door will open into a stair to the third floor. It's numbered 1810a but it's possible it was renumbered, although in the street directory there seems to be someone living at 1810a. So....don't know. The laneway between the houses will always have been there, it's a standard feature of Montreal and other North American cities.
Sorry I can't give you anything else.
Cheers,
China
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Yes, I've looked on google maps too. I found 1404 (on the other side of the lane). I've applied to the cemetery to find out where exactly the family were buried. Once I know the plot no's, I can possibly get a bit more info. I'll have to try and get death certificates but am not sure how to do it from England (no doubt google will help again).
Thank you for all the time and effort you've expended on my behalf. It's greatly appreciated.
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Here is a link to theQuebec Government website with info about ordering certificates. What they would send you for Gladys, for example, would be a transcript (I don't think they send a photocopy but China might know?) of the parish record. As I mentioned earlier, there is no formal registration of BMDs before about 1994 but if you can access Ancestry through your local public library you would have access to the original image of Gladys' burial.
http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/certificate-copy-act.html
PB
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Don't know about government certificates, sorry....don't even know when they started. My dad died in 1979 and there was a typewritten cert but 1933? No idea.
My own official birth certificate was a notarized copy of the church register. And no, I'm not telling you what year ;D
PM me with your email and I can send you Gladys' PR page but it has no cause of death...it's just a church burial record.
Cheers,
China
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Re-visited older thread - you may already have this info ?
Death Notice/Obit - Gladys May Sanderson - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Canada - 6 May 1933, Sat Page 7
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/93714771/gladys-may-sanderson-6-may-1933/
FIND A GRAVE
Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec, Canada
PLOT G 2167-V
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109013220/gladys-may-sanderson
William Henry Henderson - 1944
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108194164/william-henry-sanderson
Eva May Sanderson - 1953
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109013213/eva-may-sanderson
Sandra
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Death Notice William Sanderson - The Montreal Star Montreal, Quebec, Canada
18 Sep 1944, Mon Page 18
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/93714916/william-sanderson-18-september-1944/
Sandra
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Obituary Eva Sanderson - The Montreal Star Montreal, Quebec, Canada
7 Jan 1953, Wed Page 22
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/93714975/eva-sanderson-7-january-1953/
Sandra
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Thank you so much for your time and effort. I do have this information.
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Better twice than not at all. :)
Sandra
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Very true.