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Title: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Monday 24 December 12 08:36 GMT (UK)

Hello there,

I have found a long lost ancestor, who I now know died in a coal mine accident in Hunger Hill coal pit, Wingerworth.

How can I found where he would be buried? 

This is what the inquest says:
On Friday, the 1st. inst., an inquest was held at the Bugle Horn Inn, Wingerworth, before
Mr. Busby, on the body of Herbert Price, of Boythorpe, coalminer, aged 26 years. On Wednesday,
the 30th. of October, deceased was drawing timber at the Hunger Hill coalpit belonging to the
Wingerworth Company, when a quantity of bind fell from the roof onto the head and neck of the
deceased, and injured him so severely that he died the same day. Verdict, "Accidental Death".

He died 30 Oct 1861.

In 1851 & 1861, they were living in the Wigan area (Lancashire), and the rest of the family were in that area again in 1871.  I can't find him buried there though.

Many thanks in advance.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: skewbald on Saturday 29 December 12 00:55 GMT (UK)

Hi Mosher, I'm fairly sure he could be buried in Boythorpe. Try contacting the church and asking nicely. :)

http://www.achurchnearyou.com/boythorpe-st-francis/


Skewy.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Saturday 29 December 12 01:09 GMT (UK)

Thanks Skewy!  I have sent them a nice email.   :)

Mosher

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mootoak on Saturday 29 December 12 09:32 GMT (UK)

possibly the Spital Cemetery on Hady Hill which was operating from 1857.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Saturday 29 December 12 23:32 GMT (UK)

Thanks Mootoak, I will check with them after I get a reply from Boythorpe (if I do!).

Can I ask if you are local (or maybe Skewy if he reads this) - is Boythorpe Cemetery the same as the one at the St Francis church?

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: skewbald on Saturday 29 December 12 23:50 GMT (UK)

I'm not local, but do not think so. Also besides church burial grounds there may be a council owned one.

Skewy.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Friday 11 January 13 20:55 GMT (UK)

Think we have two different areas here, Lancashire and Derbyshire. Boythorpe Cemetary is at Chesterfield, council graveyard.  Nothing as far as I know to do with St Francis.  I was born in Chesterfield and have never heard of Hunger hill pit.  However Wingerworth (and Boythorpe) are both in or near Chesterfield but never heard of a Bugle Horn Pub at Wingerworth.  If the family in Lancashire on census's and similar name villiages in that area I would rule out Boythorpe and Spital (Hady Hill) as being very red herrings indeed.  Hope this helps
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Friday 11 January 13 22:11 GMT (UK)

Ignore my previous post please.  Just checked the link for st francis boythorpe - red face here as I have only ever known this church by the name st augustine's, as far as I know no burials here.  It is a daughter church of the main parish church and its baptisms were recorded in the prs for St Mary's (Crooked Spire).  Have not managed to find Hunger Hill in any colliery records for Derbyshire, found a Humber Hill nr Durham and an Underhill in Notts.  I have a feeling that Boythorpe didnt open till late 19/early 20c a phone call to chesterfield library should give the exact date.  Spital and possibly Brimington are other possibilities.  I'm unfamiliar with any other burial grounds on the Clay Cross side of Chesterfield. Next time will look before I put my foot in it!
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Saturday 12 January 13 02:40 GMT (UK)

Hi Liz,

Thanks for the replies!  You are right, there is no cemetery at St Francis, Boythorpe.  They replied to say I would need to contact Chesterfield Borough Council for further info about the Boythorpe Cemetery.

Hunger Hill & Boythorpe are not mentioned on the death cert only on the newspaper report of the inquest. (Derbyshire Times, Saturday 9th. November 1861).   Only Wingerworth is mentioned as place of death on the cert.

I found a few other references to deaths in the Hunger Hill coal pit owned by the Wingerworth Company but nothing to say where it was.   The is a town (?) called Hunger Hill near Stonedge, but I don't know if that is where the coal mine was.

I will try and investigate Boythorpe Cemetery a bit more and see what I can find!

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: spendlove on Monday 14 January 13 06:47 GMT (UK)

Hi,

One of the reports in the Derbyshire Times, reporting an accident at the Hungerhill pit is
headed  Mine Accident at Hasland.

As the miner concerned was from Chesterfield, not Hasland, the report would appear to
suggest that the Mine was in Hasland.

The following is a connection to the Hasland Village Page - they may be able to assist you
re the mine.  http://www.hasland.me.uk/2.html

Spendlove

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Monday 14 January 13 21:11 GMT (UK)

Hi,
This site may be interesting to you - healeyhero.co.uk - it's about the history of coal mining and gives fatal accidents in mines throughout the years.  I think this one is yours 30 October 1861 Wingerworth Pit H Prince age 26, fall of roof.  The site owner asks people to get in touch if there are any mistakes.  Its in the section dealing with pits up to 1914.  Or you could google wingerworth pit.
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: JSHC on Tuesday 15 January 13 23:03 GMT (UK)

I know this accident is listed on cmhrc.co.uk but I thought you might be interested in the original since many of the extra details are not included in that site.  It always pays to check originals!  The info is very brief and doesn't really add to what you already know but still worth having. 

This is from the Reports of the inspectors of mines for 1861, inspector was John Hedley

Image of table headers and entry for H Price
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~miningvillages/price1.jpg
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~miningvillages/price-headers.jpg

Additional information from main body of report
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~miningvillages/price-main.jpg

Please download these images as I can't guarantee they won't be deleted during site updates.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Tuesday 15 January 13 23:56 GMT (UK)

Spendlove, thanks for that info, I will investigate!

Liz, yes that is him!  I have contacted that site and asked them to amend his name.  Thanks for the link!

JSHC, I can't access the images, and if I search I can't seem to get any images.  Are you able to copy them here or email them to me?

Thanks to everyone for your help!

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: JSHC on Wednesday 16 January 13 00:09 GMT (UK)

Don't know what happened but have amended links - hope that works

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Wednesday 16 January 13 09:37 GMT (UK)

That's great, thanks JSHC!  I have saved them.  ;)

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Sunday 27 January 13 16:17 GMT (UK)

Hi going to Chesterfield later this week, have your details, I'll do a quick check in the library, see if he's buried at Hady or Boythorpe, if he isn't there at least you'll have eliminated a couple of places.
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Monday 28 January 13 01:05 GMT (UK)

Oh Liz!  That would be wonderful, thank you!

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Sunday 10 February 13 21:49 GMT (UK)

Sorry have had an awful cold and haven't felt like going out, will fulfill my promise as soon as possible
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Thursday 28 February 13 17:09 GMT (UK)

Hi,
Made it to Chesterfield today, - sorry I can't find him on the registers for Spital Cem.  Boythorpe didn't open till 1919, have you managed to find him on the 1871 census, a Chesterfield address may help a bit.  Staveley and Brimington cems also open in relevant times  I'll keep him in my book, you never know where and when these people will turn up!
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Thursday 28 February 13 22:38 GMT (UK)

Thank you for that Liz!  Sorry to hear you have been unwell, I hope you are feeling better now.

He won't be anywhere on the 1871 census I am afraid as he died in 1861.  ;D

I wish the death certificate detailed where he was buried.  Old Australian death certificates do, it makes things so much easier.

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: LizTJ on Friday 01 March 13 10:06 GMT (UK)

OOps, sorry that should be 1861 census, slip of the finger and never noticed.
Liz

Title: Re: died in Hunger Hill coal pit, where would he be buried?
Post by: mosher on Friday 01 March 13 22:52 GMT (UK)

Lol! Yes I have him in 1861 - the family were in Lancashire, the Wigan area. He must have gone to the mine in Derbyshire quite soon after.