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Title: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Thursday 20 December 12 18:01 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find any details on Louisa Frampton. The only details I know is that she married a John Francis Chevalley and had a child Francis born in Wimborne on 4th October 1848. I believe that she died in London in 1860. I can find no trace of her birth or marriage so any help would be much appreciated
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 20 December 12 22:17 GMT (UK)
1851 for Middlesex as follows:

Francis Chevally 32 b Switzerland - cook
Louisa 32 b Wimborne
Francis 2 b Wimborne
HO107 Piece 1510 Folio 423 Page 1

In 1861 - John & son Francis are living in Middlesex.  John is shown as married and occ cook
RG9 Piece 60 Folio 84 Page 22

There are 2 marriages on freebmd for a John Francis Chevally - 1863 and 1869

1871 census  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBDV-79N

1881 census  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3P3-QKX
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Friday 21 December 12 08:54 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the information but I am afraid that I did not phrase my question very well. I have details of her life after she gave birth to her son but nothing before that. I have tried to find details of her birth and marriage but without luck. I know from the census that she was born in Wimborne, Dorset about 1818/1819 and that they lived on the High Street there when the son was born. Any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 December 12 14:36 GMT (UK)
Where did you get her maiden name from as I can't find a birth reg for their son
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Friday 21 December 12 14:46 GMT (UK)
I bought a copy of their sons birth certificate. Details are 4th October 1848, Francis, boy, father-John James Francis Chevalley, mother-Louisa Cheavalley formerly Frampton, fathers occupation-cook, Informant-Louisa Cheavalley,mother (the address given is either King Street or High Street, Wimborne.
Chevalley is often mis-spelt as Cheavalley and the father was born Jean Francois Chevalley in Switzerland but anglicised his name. I have also seen him listed as Francis and John.
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 December 12 14:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thanks for that - I searched under Chev** and it's under Cheavlley
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Friday 21 December 12 15:24 GMT (UK)
It may just be a red herring but, bearing in mind that J F Chevalley was a cook, I have found the Mail Coach Inn listed in King Street, Wimborne. In the 1851 census is listed an Emma Frampton who is a niece of the owner. Could be that Louisa and J F worked and met there?
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 December 12 15:53 GMT (UK)
Emma Frampton b Wiltshire was with the Shorts at the Mail Coach Inn  in 1841 as well.   Catherine shown as a licensed Victualler but Ruben not in household
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Friday 21 December 12 16:28 GMT (UK)
Assuming that I am not going off on a wild goose chase (which I am very good at!). Reuben Short married Catherine Frampton in Southampton in 1839. There has to be a link somewhere there.
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 December 12 17:28 GMT (UK)
Catherine Short nee Frampton was b 1806 Wimborne

Emma Frampton b 1822 was b Downton Wiltshire - shown as niece in 1851

If Catherine & Reuben only married in 1839 - there is a son William Short shown as aged 5 in 1841 but nothing on the IGI re: a baptism under Short or Frampton

No marriage details on the IGI either to check if Catherine was prev married given she was 33yrs old in 1839

Louisa Frampton was b Wimborne approx 1819 and there is no marriage showing on freebmd although John Francis Chevalley went on to marry twice more after Louisa's death

IF - Louisa was previously married - she would have re-married under her married name but her son's birth cert would show her true maiden/birth surname

However - there is no marriage on freebmd between John Francis C and a Louisa of any surname
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Richard Knott on Sunday 30 December 12 13:29 GMT (UK)
The baptismal entry has Cheavlly crossed out and then replaced with Chevallier; he is described as a Man Cook. There are some other Chevalliers having children at the same time in Yetminster, Dorset. Yetminster is on the other side of Dorset (although a Louisa Frampton was born in Evershot in 1820 which is nearby).

I have an interest in the Wimborne Framptons - there were 100s - as one was the first occupier of my house in 1862. I'm not at home now, but will see if I have come across Louisa when I get back.

Richard
Title: Re: Louisa Frampton b.@ 1818 Wimborne
Post by: Frampers on Monday 07 January 13 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Richard, Great to find someone with an interest in the Wimborne Framptons. I have not found the baptismal record so I would be interested to see that. I find this search very interesting as I am actually researching my wife's Chevalley family and found this connection with my Frampton surname. Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards Steve Frampton