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Title: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Wednesday 19 December 12 08:18 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone, happy christmas to all.

I wonder if some one who has the Bloxham PR's could do a look up for me please?

I am looking for the baptism of Samuel Waters circa 1798 in Bloxham and in particular his parents? I think they were from Middleton Cheney and I have a possible but of course making the joint between the 2 families and the 2 villages can be speculation at its best.

If it helps then I also know he later Maria B 1802 - last name not known.

If someone does have the PR's perhaps they could tell me the  1st B D M listed for Waters (and variants) in Bloxham please.

Thanks so much for taking a read

NDRFT

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 19 December 12 11:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Nigel,

   Happy christmas to you also  :) :) :)

This looks like the marriage of Samuel from OFHS Oxfirdshire Marriage Index....

11 Mar 1831 Samuel Waters to Maria Dry at Bloxham


  Sue :)
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Wednesday 19 December 12 12:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue

Thank you very much - just the job. Now to find his parents.

Have a lovely Christmas

Nigel
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: Maggie jo on Thursday 20 December 12 21:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Nigel

From OFHS parish transcripts for Bloxham:

Marriage 11.3.1831 xWaters Samuel otp bach     Banns
                                x Dry Maria same parish widow
                                Wit xThomas Thornton  x Kezia Waters  Joseph Barns

Maria didn't marry Mr Dry in Bloxham and there are no burials there for Dry.

The baptisms in the name of Waters really start in 1806 with just one odd one in 1661.

Looking at variations on the surname I found the following cluster of baptisms for WALTERS:

25.12.1785 Elizabeth d John
22.10.1786 Anne d John
30.3.1788   Mary d John
7.2.1790     Hannah d John
30.3.1792   Rhoda d John
25.12.1793 John s John
21.8.1795   Samuel s John & Hannah
17.3.1797   Kezia d John & Hannah

As there is a Kezia Waters as a witness at Samuels' wedding it looks like this is your family.

Do you want all the Waters bmd's for Bloxham?

Happy Christmas

Maggie


Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Friday 21 December 12 05:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Maggie

Thank you very much - most helpful.

Please do not trouble to type all the Waters (and variants) just yet. I may have to buy the CD anyway.
I am related to the Middleton Cheney (MC) WATERS family and I am also by coincidence of marriage, connected to the Bloxham WATERS as well.
My quest is now to find where the Bloxham line came from and see if I can join them to the MC line.

From the valuable info you offer it appears as though John and Hannah were the 1st Waters (variant) to appear in Bloxham. However perhaps there may be one listed earlier in burials or marriages, I wonder if you could scan through the indexes and see if that is the case or not - at least then I shall know roughly know which years to try and find a missing Waters from MC who I suspect then moved to the other side of Banbury in Bloxham.

I hope this is clear

Happy Christmas

Nigel
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Friday 21 December 12 05:36 GMT (UK)
Hi again Maggie

Just looked in MC PR's and no marriage of a John Waters (variant) to a Hannah in the appropriate time frame. I wonder  if he was from MC still got a couple who are unaccounted for but met and married Hannah in Bloxham where they then settled - so if you have time and can take a look at the marriages that would be so good pease?

Nigel
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Friday 21 December 12 05:38 GMT (UK)
By the way are your LINES family from Oxford it self - mine are - that may be of interest to you?

Nigel
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Friday 21 December 12 05:57 GMT (UK)


If it helps then I also know he later Maria B 1802 - last name not known.



 ;D ;D

Maria 's last name was BARNS she was baptised at Great Tew 11 March 1801.

So she married a DRY but not in Great Tew - who later died before she married Samuel waters.

Another piece clicks in to place.

Thanks Maggie, your bit about she was a widow did that -

Nigel
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: Maggie jo on Saturday 22 December 12 19:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Nigel

I have two unconnected (as yet) Lines family branches but they come from Chipping Warden and Sibford Ferris. I also have a Waters marrying into my tree. Johnathan Rogers m Mary Waters in Wardington in 1780. She was not baptised in Wardington.

Back to Bloxham, starting with burials.

Only 3 for the name WALTER
1723 Elizabeth wife of William of Wickham
1767 William ext. Par.
1776 Mary

For WATERS
1661/2 John a stranger

Then nothing until 1811-William & Mary-illegitimate children-due to measels.
Regular burials but nothing after 1912. I've included the following in case it helps.

18.5.1832 Hannah 83 Bloxham
18.1.1842 John 82 Bloxham from Union
22.4.1872 Samuel 77 Bloxham
2.6 1876 Maria 77 Bloxham

Bloxham marriages:

Only one under WALTER

23.4.1740 Wheeler John of Adderbury     Lic
                Walter Eliz: of ye same

Only 2 under WATERS in 1860 & 65

No other obvious variants in the indexes.

Best Wishes
Maggie
Title: Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Sunday 23 December 12 06:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Maggie

LINES

I have some lines in Middleton Cheney so keep an eye out if any of yours head over that way and of course Chipping Warden is only along the road from MC.

WATERS
Thanks for the info about Waters and variants. I reckon they migrated to Bloxham from elsewhere and now I have some names to compare to my tree which I really appreciate.

Have a lovely christmas

thank you very much

Nigel
Title: COMPLETED _ THANKYOU. Re: Samuel Waters - Baptism - Bloxham
Post by: NDRFT on Sunday 30 December 12 10:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone