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Title: henry gault
Post by: littlebirdieone on Tuesday 18 December 12 01:46 GMT (UK)
 :)Hi looking help, I am trying to find out what happened to a Henry Gault,info below
GAULT, Henry
Convict No   2572
Ship Name   Phoebe Dunbar
Ship Arrival Date   20 Aug 1853
Birth Date   1833
Marital Status   Unmarried
Occupation   brushmaker
Literacy   semi lit
Religion   Prot
Sentence Date   6 Apr 1850
Sentence Province   Antrim
Sentence Country   Ireland
Length of Sentence   10yrs
Crime   robbery & burglary
Previous Conviction   prev conv
Ticket of Leave Date   20 Jun 1854
Conditional Pardon Date Jun 1855
We can find him arriving into Western Australia but nothing since he obtain his conditional paradon in 1855. As part of the conditional pardons he was allowed to return to either Ireland or England. Would love to find out what happened to him, have tried looking in the different states of australia, especially new south wales as some convicts where moved there. Any help  greatly appreciated. :)

Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: craizi daizi on Tuesday 18 December 12 04:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Little Birdie

Am a bit confused,  are you looking for Robert or Henry ?  please

Daizi
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 December 12 04:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Have you had a look in Trove? There are a few Henry Gault's in there but im not sure which one would be yours if any. Could be worth a look.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: John Bell on Tuesday 18 December 12 04:57 GMT (UK)
In the bicentennial dictionary of W.A (volume 2, D -J), I see in the listing under Robert Gault, it is noted that he was in fact " possibly " Henry Gault.
It does not state why they think this, but assuming that they are correct then his details are as follows.

Gault, Robert, born 1827, died 27th of March 1875 (possibly Henry who arrived 31st of August 1853 per Phebe DUNBAR, expiree), married Elizabeth Jane Cunningham who died on 2 January 1875.
Children: Agnes, Emma Mary 1859, Jane Martha 1864 (Northam), William, Sarah Matilda 1866 died 1875, John Simmons baptised 1873, MaryAnn 1873 (York Wesleyan baptised 1875). Northam-York. Employed three ticket of leave men 1866 to 1872 including a carpenter in 1871.

If you believe this is him then there are also details of the sons, John Simmons Gault and William Gault that I can give you details of.

John.
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 December 12 05:10 GMT (UK)
Do you have his convict records? From my understanding a Conditional Pardon means there were conditons he had to abide by. Maybe finding out what his conditions were might help to find where he was once pardoned and work from there.

I cannot find a marriage between Robert and Elizabeth in WA  :-\
Also cannot find the birth for Agnes in WA.

Im beginning to think that Henry and Robert were 2 different people.
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: muss on Tuesday 18 December 12 06:39 GMT (UK)
Hi 
One more tree

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/10421/20041220-0000/www.firstfamilies2001.net.au/firstfamily7d62.html?id=Gault10524522513


Muss
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 December 12 06:52 GMT (UK)
Henry is noted as been single with no children when he come here.

Gault        Henry             2572   brushmaker            M/S S  child none   height 5' 1 1/2"   hair dark brown   eyes grey       
face round   compeltion fresh  Build slight 


      http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/con-wa10.html
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 18 December 12 06:52 GMT (UK)
Conditional Pardon Date   Jun 1855 littlebirdie one


The Conditional Pardon

Published 18th JULY 1856

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sli/

Conditional Pardons have been received by the following men during the month of June.

(includes)
2572 Henry Gault

Sue

Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: littlebirdieone on Tuesday 18 December 12 07:31 GMT (UK)
Hi many thanks for everyones help. First of all its Henry Gault that I am looking for.
Robert Gault married Eliza Jane Cunningham in Northern Ireland at Taylorstown Antrim in 1854, I have a copy of their marriage entry and seen the real one in Northern Ireland, they travel by ship in 1862 to Western Australia with four children, only three on the passengers list and in the newspaper anoticing thier arrival as margaret was under 12 months old.
I have alot on robert and Eliza's family but trying to find a henry Gault who is no relation to my line but there are people still mixing them up. I need to find out what happened to Henry Gault to prove to a leading genologist in Perth that she has the facts wrong. This will explain why in some books written by this person wrong information is given.
Many thanks for all your help will keep looking, hope this clears things up. Thanks Dawn
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 December 12 08:12 GMT (UK)
Im confused as to how a leading genologist thinks Henry and Robert are the same person.

If Henry turned up as a convict in 1853 how can he be Robert who turned up in 1862.
Also the convict records state Henry was single and no children.

I wonder where she got her source of info from  :-\
Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 18 December 12 10:43 GMT (UK)
Hi littleBirdieone,
I think it would be sensible if you were to make some edits to your original post because it is misleading and confusing.

To do this use the modify button you can see on your posts.

Strike through the word ROBERT in your first line and write- Henry-

Strike through the date of the CONDITIONAL PARDON as you have written and correct it.

There is every possibilty that HENRY found employment for a time after his pardon and was financially  able to return to England.  There are death listings in the name in England.

OR

Do you have an  ancestry that suggests he remained in Australia?

Are you descended from him through someone born here?

Sue

Title: Re: henry gault
Post by: littlebirdieone on Tuesday 18 December 12 23:35 GMT (UK)
I agree with that I too dont know how some one could mix the two up. Just to keep you guessing as to where she got the info, Eliza Jane Wilson used the surname Cunningham too, arrived into Australia as a convict into tasmania and she married there to another convict. I have obtained her criminal records and also where she obtained permission to marry another convict.
Gillian OMarea( not sure on the spelling) want listen to anyone have had my cousin who lives in Perth talk to her but she want listen, that is why I am trying to find out where Henry went to.
Many thanks for your help.
Please accept my applogy if at times I write confusing stuff