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Title: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I am trying to find out what happened to Myles Staunton, son of Thomas & Mary Staunton.

He was born in Liverpool in 1891:

From FreeBMD:
Births Dec 1891   (>99%)
Staunton, Miles, Liverpool 8b   26

He appears on the 1901 Census aged 11 (RG13/3407, Folio 25, Page 41) and then on the 1911, aged 19, (RG14-22-5-46-22546), in which he's employed by CPR Steamships (Canadian Pacific Railway) as a ship steward.

NB: in this case the Stanton/Staunton name is quite interchangeable!

After 1911... nothing. 

Searching Ancestry Worldwide and FindMyPast's various worldwide databases has yielded only 1 hit and that was in the 1900 US Census. But Miles Stanton is aged 20 (b 1880) - but mother & father have the right names. However I'm certain this is not the right one.

I have no leads whatsoever to chase up.

Any advice or help would be gratefully received,

thanks

John
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 11:59 GMT (UK)
DId your Miles have a middle name?  There is a Miles P Stanton on the 1920 US census, born England c. 1893.  Immigration date of 1910.
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:00 GMT (UK)
DId your Miles have a middle name?  There is a Miles P Stanton on the 1920 US census, born England c. 1893.  Immigration date of 1910.

Just about to post that  :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFTN-HQZ
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:14 GMT (UK)
THANK YOU  both for the reply.

I'm not sure if he had a middle name but that birth date certainly looks plausible.
Would be interesting to follow that up by looking for the their marriage record.

However, the immigration date of 1910, doesn't quite fit with his appearance on the England & Wales 1911 Census....
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:34 GMT (UK)
marriage of Miles' son in 1947 lists his father as being deceased, and mothers maiden name asHamsher
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:36 GMT (UK)
There's a birth in Liverpool in 1925 of a William Myles Staunton - sounds like a rellie of some sort - son?
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:37 GMT (UK)
And on daughter's marriage cert of 1939, Miles is noted as deceased.
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:39 GMT (UK)
marriage of Miles' son in 1947 lists his father as being deceased, and mothers maiden name asHamsher

Thanks again Spidermonkey. Can you link to that marriage record please?
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:42 GMT (UK)
There's a birth in Liverpool in 1925 of a William Myles Staunton - sounds like a rellie of some sort - son?

Yes, thanks Liz.  William is Myles's nephew. His father was Patrick, a younger brother of Myles. William died in Liverpool in 1999.  Patrick & Myles can be found together on the 1911 Census that I referenced above.

John
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:43 GMT (UK)
And on daughter's marriage cert of 1939, Miles is noted as deceased.

You can see a marriage certificate? Where is this?

Thank you

John
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:47 GMT (UK)
And on daughter's marriage cert of 1939, Miles is noted as deceased.

You can see a marriage certificate? Where is this?

Thank you

John
On family search.  will find link now
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:49 GMT (UK)
Try this https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amiles~%20%2Bsurname%3Astanton~&collection_id=1589502

PS apologies for grammar and spelling - typing one handed whilst also rocking baby!
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:53 GMT (UK)
Try this https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amiles~%20%2Bsurname%3Astanton~&collection_id=1589502

PS apologies for grammar and spelling - typing one handed whilst also rocking baby!

Very impressive! Thanks for the link.

My one concern about this trail is the Immigration date of 1910 for Miles P, when his is very clearly on the 1911 England & Wales Census.

Cheers

John
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:01 GMT (UK)
The date of immigration is an issue, but he may have crossed back and forth a couple of times, or he was vague about date to the enumerator (i.e "when did you emigrate?" "About 10 years ago"),  or he was trying to cover his tracks for some reason.
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:03 GMT (UK)
The 1920 census and his daughter's marriage cert both give POB as England, so how many Myles Stantons (and variants) are born c. 1892?
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:18 GMT (UK)
The 1920 census and his daughter's marriage cert both give POB as England, so how many Myles Stantons (and variants) are born c. 1892?

That's a very good point indeed.  Answer: only 1 and that is Miles in 1891.

Something to think about!
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: MaureeninNY on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:24 GMT (UK)
Just to note that on his WW1 draft registration it gives born Sept. 14 1892 in Liverpool.

Hard to tell! I think I see his christening on A*try with DOB as Sept. 26,1891.

Maureen
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:31 GMT (UK)
Just to note that on his WW1 draft registration it gives born Sept. 14 1892 in Liverpool.

Hard to tell! I think I see his christening on A*try with DOB as Sept. 26,1891.

Maureen


Thank you Maureen.   I had been wondering about that record - but currently don't have access. This is definitely coming together.

The birth in 1891 is registered in the Dec quarter, so a christening of Sept 91 makes sense.

The discrepancy of the birth dates ('91 vs '92) is a little odd, but there are no other Miles/Myles Stanton/Stauntons born around that date in England & Wales.....

Fascinating & thank you again Maureen.
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:45 GMT (UK)
Just to note that on his WW1 draft registration it gives born Sept. 14 1892 in Liverpool.

Hard to tell! I think I see his christening on A*try with DOB as Sept. 26,1891.

Maureen

Incidentally, his older brother Walter Joseph Staunton/Stanton (b 1888) emigrated in 1908 and married in St Ambrose Church in Brooklyn, NY, in 1956.
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: MaureeninNY on Tuesday 11 December 12 13:58 GMT (UK)
 ;) ;)Goodness! He waited a while to tie the knot! :)


Maureen
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: JayUU on Tuesday 11 December 12 14:00 GMT (UK)
;) ;)Goodness! He waited a while to tie the knot! :)

Maureen

I know! On his baptism record, the priest has scribbled a note to say that he's got married in Brooklyn.  You'd have thought if he'd been married previously then a priest might have done the same, if notified by the family.

Thanks again for the Draft card details.

John
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 14:33 GMT (UK)
Think i have found Catherine, Miles jnr and Marjorie on 1930 census.  Catherine looks like she has remarried to a Delroy (?) Clemson
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 11 December 12 14:37 GMT (UK)
Catherine's grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58696777
Title: Re: The Mystery of Myles Staunton
Post by: inezpurcell on Thursday 26 September 13 08:43 BST (UK)
sorry, i just posted this in annie o'malley, too.......!

hello,

my relatives from the british isles:
burnes campbell ross married norah winnifred fitzpatrick  --- liverpool folks
her parents were bridget nee stanton who married harry fitzpatrick (scottish footballer)
bridget's parents were thomas stanton who married mary morrison
we are looking for tom o'malley, how he fits in
he moved to chicago according to the story after he and his first wife moved to a nyc tenement where she died in a fire

my grandpa "jack" ross was a chindit highlander
his mom was christina cameron


can you tell me more about mary morrison? and her family? where are they from?
my mom told us last night that there were 3 sisters who were just to go to massachusetts to work as milliners or something, but then mary met thomas stanton who was older than she, seemed to be doing well, so she stayed in l-pool.

my mom need to help tell this better than i am, but we were just talking about this last night, so this is very timely.

thank you!
tracey