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Title: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Saturday 08 December 12 23:45 GMT (UK)
Agnes Shearer is my mother in law and the biggest mystery of our family.  She has two sisters Lizzie and Mary.  The problem was known as Shearer but her father's name was Russell. I have searched both surnames.  She never married.  I have searched thro her sister's as well.  She said she was born on 16/12/02 but her medical card said it was 6/12/02.  We thought she was born in Blantyre and later lived in Bathgate but I now think she was born elsewhere.  She lived in Wales during the war when my husband was a little lad.  She was 42/43 he was born in Penbrooke so he doesn't remember anything about his granny. He just seen her in hospital when he was a child. If I could be sure what her surname really was or did she change it because she was afraid of the father taking the her son. We just presumed the family name was Shearer.  Anybody got any ideas please.  Thank you if you even look at this. :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Saturday 08 December 12 23:47 GMT (UK)
I have a birth certificate I ordered thinking it was her, if It's not infringing any copyright I would be happy to put it on the site. :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: suzard on Sunday 09 December 12 00:14 GMT (UK)
Hope you don't mind me asking questions -but I am a little confused by your post??

Your mother in law is Agnes Shearer??
Yet later you say she was 42/43 when your husband was born - so he doesn't remember anything about her only seeing his granny in hospital ? So who was his Granny????

Agnes Shearer's father's name was Russell????? Where did you get this from???

If you could just post details of the  birth cert you oredered - name -parents, mother's maiden name, p.o.b.

Suz
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: lizdb on Sunday 09 December 12 16:24 GMT (UK)
I cant see an Agnes Russell or an Agnes Shearer birth in Oct/NOv/Dec 1902 or Jan/Feb/Mar 1903 ...
at least in England or Wales. Where is Blantyre where you thought she was born?

Have you looked on 1911 for her / and / or sisters? We cant do look ups but there seems to be an Agnes Shearer bn Scotland living in Lancashire
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Sunday 09 December 12 16:37 GMT (UK)
Sorry for confusing you. I mentioned the granny who was Agnes's mother because even my husband was too young to get her name, I don't think he had much contact with the family. I was trying to emphasise  how little we know.
The birth certificate says Agnes Russell was born on 12/12/02. Address 53 Cochrane St. Bathgate.
Agnes herself told me that her father's name was Russell, but she called herself Shearer. This birth certificate says the father's name is Alexander Russell and mother's Margaret Myres Married 16 November 1883.  It means they were married 19 years when Agnes was born.  Agnes told me her father used to go away and then comeback and another child would be born. She only ever mentioned Lizzie and Mary.
Thanks for pointing out the confusion I saw it when I read it again and also for taking an interest. :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Sunday 09 December 12 16:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you lizdb.  I have looked up the sisters and tried to find out more about them. Agnes is an enigma, so I thought i could get some info on the family thro' them. I have just posted a birth certificate I ordered which I thought was her but I'm not so sure now.  We know she was Shearer when she was in Wales during the war where my husband was born but to get further back I'm trying to find which surname she used. Appreciate your help. Blantyre is in Scotland.  :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: suzard on Sunday 09 December 12 17:29 GMT (UK)
Do you know when and where she died? And in what name?

Had Agnes been married?

On her child's birth cert what is given as her maiden name??

Suz
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Sunday 09 December 12 18:40 GMT (UK)
I know where she died. It was in Belfast under Agnes Shearer, and that is the name on her son's birth certificate.  I lived in Belfast at that time and brought her from Scotland to me to look after her. She died 15/2/82.  But all that is no use to me.  She said she never  married,her son's father being the love of her life. We were able to contact the father and he knew her as Shearer as well.  I found an Agnes Shearer in 1901 Scottish Census and the name of her sisters were on it too. But it has her born 1895. In it the birthplace was stirling, then in1911 there was a move to Lanchashire.  On 1901 census there were other children and more born when they moved to England. We including her son thought there was just three sisters.
We were unable to find the marriage certificates of her two sisters maybe they were married in England. You can see why I appreciate help.
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Sunday 09 December 12 18:49 GMT (UK)
The name of the parents on this new finding are Robert and Annie Shearer. Robert born c1867 and Annie 1868.  Hope this isn't a red herring :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Monday 10 December 12 20:46 GMT (UK)
Isn't my Agnes. Back to the drawing board :(
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 11 December 12 12:03 GMT (UK)
But that is an Agnes bn Scotland living in Lancashire! With sisters Liza and Mary . . .

How do you know it isnt her? Seems to meet the criteria?  :)
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Tuesday 11 December 12 21:27 GMT (UK)
She never spoke of going to England and she said she worked on a farm when she was a young girl. I worked in a weaving factory in Belfast and spoke about it to her and she never mentioned that she worked as a cotton weaver.  I got the impression that she worked in service all her life, and was in Wales when her son was born in 1944.  The dob in Stirling was 1895.  She was born 1902 poss 1903. She never mentioned other siblings except Mary and Lizzie. Tho' I suppose it doesn't mean she didn't have any others. Possibly they went to Wales before her.
That is why I don't think it's my mother-in-law.  If you think it is faulty thinking on my part I would be glad to hear from you.  I do appreciate the help you have given me very much. :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 12 December 12 14:26 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I thought you had confirmed there WAS a move to Lancashire  :)
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Wednesday 12 December 12 18:17 GMT (UK)
I really did think I had found her and thought it was part of her life she hadn't told us about but on reflection I had doubts. I'm even doubting if the sisters were born in Scotland at all.  Once again thank you.  She was a bit of a character in life and now I think we're getting the run around after her death. Will post if I find out anymore.  Sorry for any confusion. :) xxx
Title: Re: Agnes Shearer
Post by: menamac60 on Friday 06 September 13 14:31 BST (UK)
Still nothing on Agnes Shearer or Russell :-[