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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: double-trouble on Sunday 02 December 12 20:33 GMT (UK)
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Dear all , looking for some advice or knowledge .
I have Michael Francis Ryan b . Filard ( ? ? ) Ireland ref . 1861 census a 31 y Harpist living : - 1 Paradise Place , Cardiff .
On the 1853 cert of Michaels mrg . to Ellen Bevil , his father is shown as a farmer ( I assume in Ireland )
On the 1854 birth cert of son John Ryan he is shown as a schoolmaster living : - Welsh St , Chepstow
On the 1873 mrg . cert of son John Ryan he is shown to be deceased ( pos . d . jun 1/4 1871 Bristol )
Searching for info . on the name in Ireland of Filard . Do you think it has been trancribed incorrectly ? What could it be ?
Does anyone have any info . on Michaels birth in Ireland and his parents history there ?
Appreciate thoughts and help to progress this problem ,
Thankyou
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I've never heard of Filard so could be mistranscribed. Two places come to mind - Fethard in Tipperary or Killard in Cork. Unfortunately, Ryan is a very common name in Ireland.
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I think the initial letter is "T"?
Compare with the occupation of Tailor 2 doors down! ;D
So, maybe Tilard?
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Hi,
I wonder if it might be FALLARD which is near Letterkenny in Co. Donegal.
Regards
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can you post a scan of the word from the census and I'm sure someone will decipher it for you.
You can search place names here http://www.logainm.ie
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Hope this works!
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Thankyou for your replies . The letter T is a possibility and not the F as I thought . I will play around with the info . and hope to see if anything else comes up , I thought the trade of Michaels father named John ( shown as a farmer ) may have helped and I ' ve just noticed I did'nt put that in my original request .
Appreciate responses , thankyou
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I am looking for the same family. My research involves Michael's son John Michael Ryan, born 1854 in Chepstow, who married Anne Amelia Trebell in 1873.
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I thought the trade of Michaels father named John ( shown as a farmer ) may have helped
Unfortunately, the majority of people in Ireland in early 19th century were tenant farmers living on what we might today call smallholdings, so this won't narrow down the search very much.
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hi i am also researching the Ryan family .I have just received the birth certificate of Thomas Francis Ryan 1881 (john M Ryan's son )to confirm his mother's name which is Annie Amelia Trebell . On the ancestry site there are around four Michael Ryans born around 1810 and I have to go through each family to rule out possible dads to John f Ryan 1830. I am at the same point as you with my search and will happily inform you if I get anywhere The main stumbling block is that there are so many same name families that came over at the same time
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Nice to find someone else following the line . Thanks for the support as and when....
The Trebel ( and variants ) I might be able to help with ? or at least share anything I have at present although I've not been working on the line for a while and may have to look at it for a short while to become ' au fait ' with it again .
Hope to speak soon ,
Regards ,
Garry
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My name is Thomas. John Michael Ryan abt 1854 is my great grandfather. I am really interested to know, as you are also tracing your family, if we are, indeed related? Would it be possible to let me know. I understand if you would not. And best wishes to you in your search.
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We certainly are related and he is my g , g , g grandfather on my Ryan surname line .
His eldest son William ( ( b . 1873 also shown as Thomas William Henry Ryan on certs ) was my g , g grandfather who mrd . Esther Emily Richards . They had an eldest daughter ( I believe ) Esther Emily Ryan who mrd . Edwin George ( my surname ) , who had Edwin George , who had Barry George and then myself .
Please check for my post message to you where I will elaborate further .
Garry