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Title: murray family
Post by: charlie123 on Sunday 02 December 12 10:16 GMT (UK)
hi, i'm looking for any info on the murray family who arrived in oz 3rd may 1855 on board the ship john davies from scotland. i know this is very vague but its all i know so far.

many thanks charlie murray
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: rosball on Sunday 02 December 12 10:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Charlie,
  The NSW state records office  www.records.nsw.gov.au  has digitised records of ships arrivals and passenger details including the John Davies in 1855.  However the site is not behaving at the moment .. ::)  It has been down today and  has come back up now yet has broken links.  Maybe tomorrow ...?

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: majm on Sunday 02 December 12 10:55 GMT (UK)
Fingers crossed that this "back door" link will work ..... Scroll down to May 1855 should get you to the ship :) and thus to the passenger list.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316#the-list-of-ships

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 10:58 GMT (UK)
Were the parents Robert & Agnes along with their children William, John, Janet, Agnes & James?
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 11:13 GMT (UK)
Reason why SRNSW is offline:

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/news/reading-room-web-services-outage
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: charlie123 on Sunday 02 December 12 12:13 GMT (UK)
hi merlin, yes thats the family i'm afraid i dont know very much about them, any info would be great.

many thanks

charlie123
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: charlie123 on Sunday 02 December 12 12:18 GMT (UK)
hi majm, i scrolled down to the name of the ship [john davies]and clicked but got nothing.

thanks anyway

charlie123
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 02 December 12 12:47 GMT (UK)
Perhaps if you try tomorrow all will be back to normal.

Here is some info from the records of the Immigration Board which are usually a bit more detailed than the passenger manifests...

John Davies
Immigrants inspected on 10 May 1855

Robert MURRAY, 39, Labourer, native of Ayrshire, parents William and Barbara - dead (unclear whether both are dead or just William), Presbyterian, can read and write, has a sister in Sydney.

Agnes MURRAY, 31, native of Ayrshire, parents William and Janet in Ayrshire, Presbyterian, can read and write

Children William, 11, John, 9, Janet, 6, Agnes, 5, and James Davies MURRAY, infant born onboard

Debra  :D
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 13:20 GMT (UK)
They disembarked in Queensland. Here is the passenger list:

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/ImmigrationIndexes/Documents/John_Davis_1855_QSA_Item_ID_18474.pdf

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/ImmigrationIndexes/Documents/Assisted-Immigrants-1848-1912-M.pdf
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 13:29 GMT (UK)
Deaths in Ipswich QLD:

Robert MURRAY d. 13/12/1896 - born Scotland aged 85 years #C2005/1892
Father: - Murray   
Mother: Barbara -

Agnes MURRAY d. 3/5/1891 #C2009/1891
Father: William Lucas
Mother: Janet Moore
   
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 13:39 GMT (UK)
Robert & Agnes are buried at Ipswich Pioneer Cemetery along with David their son:

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/qld/ipswich/pioneerdata.htm
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 13:41 GMT (UK)
You can search the QLD BMD for the family:

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 14:11 GMT (UK)
There are several researchers who are descendants of the family that have certificates, photos, etc.
Perhaps you would like to contact them.

http://www.mundia.com/au/Person/3135492/-1761313998
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: charlie123 on Sunday 02 December 12 15:07 GMT (UK)
hi merlin and dundee, sorry to misslead you but i think these are not the correct family. the names are much the same but my family came from the lothians in scotland not ayrshire. the names you have given me and the area they came from are they taken from the passenger list of the john davies in may 1855?

thanks again

charlie123
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 02 December 12 15:37 GMT (UK)
hi merlin and dundee, sorry to misslead you but i think these are not the correct family. the names are much the same but my family came from the lothians in scotland not ayrshire. the names you have given me and the area they came from are they taken from the passenger list of the john davies in may 1855?


Yes, the names we gave you and the area they came from are they taken from the passenger list & the records of the immigration board for the John Davies in May 1855.

I gave you the links in my previous reply #8 where you can see a copy of the original passenger list on the QLD Archives which gives the details. Did you read it?

What makes you think that your MURRAY family arrived on the John Davies in May 1855?
Perhaps you should give us the information you do have on them - names, dates, places, parents, etc.
Title: Re: murray family
Post by: charlie123 on Sunday 02 December 12 17:29 GMT (UK)
hi merlin, sorry about this but ive been given the wrong information about the family. seemingly they left home in bonyrigg scotland sold all possessions and bought tickets for oz. the boat they were meant to sail on had to come into dock for repairs which was going to take 2 or 3 weeks, so they got a refund and went to america. the trip took 11 weeks and they landed in new orleans on 1st jan 1852. robert and jessie murray had a few kids and had a very good life in america and died in wellsville. if you care to google robert wood murray it is very interesting.

thanks for all

charlie123