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Title: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Sunday 25 November 12 22:10 GMT (UK)
I have been searching for a great uncle of mine a John Delme Hannam Born 27 Jan 1765 and baptised 17 Feb 1765 at St James Westminster London England. I have just discovered that he may have married and moved to New Zealand and had a child, a son called Neri, I do not know if this is a common NZ name or not. I do not know what his wife's name was or where they lived. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance     Steve
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: Janette on Sunday 25 November 12 22:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve,

Unfortunately NZ BDM's didn't start records until 1840,so it may be difficult to track your man down

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 25 November 12 22:49 GMT (UK)
I have been searching for a great uncle of mine a John Delme Hannam Born 27 Jan 1765 and baptised 17 Feb 1765 at St James Westminster London England. I have just discovered that he may have married and moved to New Zealand and had a child, a son called Neri, I do not know if this is a common NZ name or not.


Hi Steve

Can you please expand on where you discovered this information ... and what the connection to New Zealand might be ?

  ~  Lu
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Sunday 25 November 12 23:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Janette, Lu, The only info I have was  mentioned  in some correspondence ( which I do not have ) that he married and moved to NZ. sorry I know it's a bit of a long shot ,I do not know what records they have in NZ.

Thanks
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: spades on Sunday 25 November 12 23:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve,

Formal immigration to New Zealand didn't begin until 1840 with the New Zealand Company (and others). Prior to this early European visitors or residents tended to be either explorers, missionaries or whalers.

Might John Delme HANNAM have fitted into one one these groups? He would have been aged 35 in 1800 and most likely deceased by 1840.

Do you have any information about his year of death? Can you deduce it (even approximately) from what you know already?

Spades
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: craigt on Monday 26 November 12 01:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve, there was a John Hannam (no middle name given) who was sentenced to seven years transportation in 1801, aged 39 (See the Old Bailey website). According to convict lists on another site this John Hannam was 31 and was 'pardoned to quit the kingdom', which I presume means he had to leave England for good. Where he ended up is anyone's guess although given the year it is likely to be America.
Regards,
Craig.
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Monday 26 November 12 08:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks spades sorry I have no other info on JD.
 craigt there is little or no info on JD in the UK apart from his DOB and Baptism dates

Steve
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: spades on Thursday 29 November 12 02:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve,

The sparse information you have might make more sense if we consider Australia rather than New Zealand. Australia was the most common (only?) destination country for 'transported' persons.

And the implied date range you gave would also suit his arrival in Australia as European settlement began in the 1700's.

Spades

Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 29 November 12 08:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks spades the info I have such as it is does mention NZ but Australia is worth a try.
Steve
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: Mackiwi on Thursday 29 November 12 18:36 GMT (UK)
I would try Claim a Convict just in case or some of the other Australian sites for arrivals. :)
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: Infobunny on Tuesday 11 December 12 01:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve,

Weirdly enough BMD indexed deaths on www.GenesReunited.co.uk shows a death record in 1838 in St Lukes, London for a Neri John Hannam.  www.familysearch.org does show records for Neri Hannam in a couple of ways such as a marriage in 1836 in London.

Maybe John Delme Hannam did his time overseas and then came back to the UK, or his son came back on his own.

Consider trying to go backwards from Neri through his death cert or other records??

Cheers
Bunny 8)
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Tuesday 11 December 12 09:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Infobunny I'll give it a try

Steve
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: Honeymoon on Friday 28 December 12 10:45 GMT (UK)
Really interested in discussing Neri HANNAM. I have family letters that mention a Neri HANNAM.

There appears to be a George Neri HANNAM resident and having family in London in the mid 1800's. I am trying to put together a timeline of the different records I find as he sometimes seems to go by George, sometimes by Neri and at other times George Neri. There also appear to be multiple wives for whom I am having trouble finding deaths.

I am hoping to connect him to the rest of my Hannam family in which a son called George is included born c1794-1807.

With regard to the Sep Qtr 1838 death of Neri John HANNAM that you mention, his birth appears to have been recorded in the BDM indexes as Nori John HANNAM in the Jun Qtr 1838.

By coincidence I  live in New Zealand, but have nothing to connect Neri to NZ at this stage and no mention of John Delme HANNAM in my research so far.

Fiona
Title: Re: where is John Delme Hannam?
Post by: brianz on Friday 28 December 12 18:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Honeymoon
                     My initial post tells you everything that I know about John Delme Hannam, which is very little he seems to have been born, baptised and then disappeared. Unfortunately I cannot help you with Neri either as I have not come across one yet. This does not mean to say that they do not exist just that I have not found them yet .

    Steve