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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: bisjam on Wednesday 21 November 12 18:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi am looking to see if anyone has any knowledge of a Devito family who lived in Belfast. Unfortuanately what I know is very vague. Alfie Devito married a Sarah ann Cleland. She was birn in 1913 and died in 1974 They lived in Bangor at the time of her death. My family always believed alfie was Italian. Possibly born here. I know when Sarah or Sadie as she was known died Alfie apparently moved to America and remarrried very quicky. With his new wife they opened a hotel of sorts but he died shortly after probably 1975 or 6. I am not sure how this information was relayed to Belfast but Sarahs mother was still alive at the time. There is a devito family living in Belfast in the 1911 census with the father being a hairdresser. My mum believes the whole family might have been barbers so this could be them but if so Alfie isnt born then. With it being an Italian man being a barber in Belfast I am hoping that stands out in someones memory. I would just like to find out his date of birth and where he was born and if there was any other family members still here. Alfie and sarah didnt have any children.
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Strathaden/138624/
that is the Devito family in 1911
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Sarah Ann Devito died 7 August 1974. Not much time for Alfie to move to America, remarry and open an hotel by 1975/6.
Wonder what Alfie's first name was- closest Belfast birth for Devito c1913 is Ederici E M Devito, Apr./June 1912 Belfast registration district volume 1 page 179 (index doesn't indicate whether male or female).
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBR7-965
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It all sounds quite quick after her death but I am till that's how it happened. Maybe he had other family over there and moved straight after. He might not have much reason to stay the rest of Sarah's family were in Belfast fairly scattered about. I don't know what Alfie would be short for except Alfred
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Might be worth checking to see what happened to older siblings, etc. Will post back here if I find any clues that might help find Alfie.
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Just found new thread on US board- but would be careful about assuming his given name was Alfred-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,624751.0/topicseen.html
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Well, it looks like Alfie could be little William in 1911 census (link posted above)!
The ages on the census don't, I think, match up with the correct child but I've found births in England that might sort that out-
All births registered Holborn district, London:
Ernesto 1897 (1911- Ernest)
Elisa Albina 1898 (1911- Alice)
Helena 1901 (1911- Ellen)
Ersiglio 1902 (died young)
Armando 1905 (1911- Armando)
Oreste 1906 (died young)
Ersiglio 1908 (1911- Ersiglio)
Oreste 1908 (1911- Oreste)
Spelling of surname may be making it difficult to find all the children but... this may be William in 1911 census (10 months old in 1911 would be about right):
William Alfred A. Devito Apr./June 1910 Hackney
If 'Alfie' is William Alfred A. it might be that you need to search for William Devito in U.S.
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An Ernie Devito had a cafe at Main Street Portrush and his wife ran a ladies hairdresser (Clio's ) next door in the 60's. Ernie's had 2 sons, * and a daughter. * (son) is still in the area. The Ernesto in the census would certainly fit the bill regarding age
* Moderator Note: details of living/possibly living people removed in accordance with Rootschat policy
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It's still an 'if' at this point, but be aware that if Peter and Mary DeVito a la 1911 census is the correct family, the Lennon Wylie website also shows them possibly into confectionery (maybe ice cream as well?) in 1918...
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1918DE.htm
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Peter and Mary Devoto are on the 1901 census, living in 84 Whitecross Street, Finsbury,London. He was a barber, hair- and had 3 Italian assistants (live in). The children were Ernest, Alice and Ellen. All adults Italian Citizens.
RosemaryJoan
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Peter and Mary Devoto are on the 1901 census, living in 84 Whitecross Street, Finsbury,London. He was a barber, hair- and had 3 Italian assistants (live in). The children were Ernest, Alice and Ellen. All adults Italian Citizens.
RosemaryJoan
Already posted 2 days ago on US thread (link posted earlier).
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Sorry - didn't see the US link.
RosemaryJoan
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That's what happens when there are more than 1 thread looking for the same person :-\
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I apologise for putting this on the American and Belfast thread. I didn't think it would be picked up by everyone otherwise
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It's best to post links between topics on different boards to prevent duplication and confusion for those trying to help.
I still think you will have trouble finding 'Alfie' in the records without knowing more details. Have you though about contacting the family of Ernie Devito mentioned earlier in this thread?
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That is a possibility though the 1960s was over 40 years ago. Would have to be someone who knows of them who lives up there probably
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Bit more information on Alfie and his wife Sarah. apparantly they mived to America for a long time and lived there after marrying.Am still not sure when that was. They did come home eventually and reside in Bangor Co. Down. Apparantly when Sarah died in 1974 Alfie did move to America and remarry within 4 months to a hotel owner but he did die shortly after and he was quite a weathy man she inheritted it. Haver also posted on American thread
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Apparently he had a brother called Gary who at one time had a shop on the Albertbridge road
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Spelling of surname may be making it difficult to find all the children but... this may be William in 1911 census (10 months old in 1911 would be about right):
William Alfred A. Devito Apr./June 1910 Hackney
If 'Alfie' is William Alfred A. it might be that you need to search for William Devito in U.S.
This does seem to be the right guy. Further information available on the US thread, including a 1981 death in Florida.
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Thanks for letting us know, Shelly- lots more detail now on U.S. thread-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,624751.0/topicseen.html
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My daughters are related to the Devito family in the Irish records. Ernesto is their Great Great Grandfather. He did own a hairdressers and I believe died from falling off a ladder! :-\ He had 2 sons Victor and William, no daughters that I know of. I'm afraid I dont know of Alfie but I do know that the family did disperse and that some did go to america and that one did open a hotel, so it sounds like the same family! I
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Alfie and his wife didn't have any children unfortunately. They might have lived in Michigan for a while. His mother in law was a Florida Cleland and his wife Sarah Ann known As sadie
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Regarding Ernest Di Vito/De Vito of Portrush, Northern Ireland, just thought I would update you that this is not the same Ernesto born in London. My uncle Ernest, of Portrush, was born later, of parents Magno & Maria who married in Scotland before coming to Ireland, & the family were ice-cream & chips makers in the early part of the 20th century, before Magno moved to the Republic on the outbreak of WWII.