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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: annclare on Friday 16 November 12 16:28 GMT (UK)
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Helping a friend re her Fullerton family and looking for the parents of Sarah Fullerton b. c. 1851 in Minaward Buncrana and married Bernard McLaughlin in Buncrana 28 Jan 1872. Sarah's father was Alexander Fullerton b.c. 1830 Shandrim Buncrana. Hoping to find Alexander's wife's name. Would welcome any help.
annclare
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Is "Alexander Fullerton b.c. 1830 Shandrim Buncrana" an estimate or based on facts or family stories? His occupation? (this should be on Sarah's marriage certificate)
I checked the online civil registration index and can't see a likely death for Alexander Fullerton but perhaps he didn't die in Ireland or died before the start of registration in 1864.
Do you know what denomination the Fullertons would have been? Church records (of they exist) are likely to be the way to find the name of Sarah's mother.
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Aghadowey
Sarah Fullerton was born according to Census 1901 in 1851 and was R.C. So her birth was pre registration
See Census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Mintiaghs/Shandrim/1182137/
However as far as I can make out the correct parish is Buncrana R.C. and their records start too late to get her baptism.
I have got her church marriage record in 1872 from Donegal Ancestry but it only gives father's surname but family lore is that her father was Alexander Fullerton also from Shandrim.
There is a pension search form of Census 1851 online that shows an Alexander Fullerton and wife Sarah in Shandrim but no family details are given apart from confirming that the applicant for the search an Alex Fullerton of Duntason Dumfries (sic) was found.
I had seen a Roots chat query about another Fullerton family in the same area and wondered if there was a connection or if somebody might recognise the family- all a bit of a long shot I'm afraid. .
annclare
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Have you checked for the Alexander Fullerton in Scotland in census records, death certificate, etc.?
The civil marriage certificate will show complete details (unlike the transcription you have) and things like father's occupation and witnesses might help.
See here for details on marriage certificates with links on ordering-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html
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No will follow that up - many thanks for the lead.
annclare
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Can't help with the mother's name but for information, Sara's father Alexander was a farmer and there's an Alexander Fullerton listed against Shandrim in Griffiths Valuation.
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look at donegal resources:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
Shandrim comes under Fahan Lower
of type in the Basic search box: Fullerton
Alexander mention griffiths valuation fahan lower 1857
http://familysearch.org
birth of child Michael Laughlin 15.2.1874 father Bernard Laughlin mother Sarah Fullerton
Indexing No. C70155-2 source film No. 255894
Sara Fullerton marriage Registration Inishown 1872, No. 4179384 Vol 2, Page 207
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Rathmore
Appreciate your help very much. Since last posting have got the details from the marriage cert confirming that Sarah's father is Alexander occupation farmer. With Griffiths showing Alexander Fullerton in Shandrim and that seems to be the only Alexander Fullerton it seems very probable that the 1851 Census record is the correct family. So I think the only way to confirm Sarah's mother's name is to follow up Aghadowey's suggestion and try and find records in Scotland for the Alex Fullerton that made the pension query. I know nothing about Scottish records and wondering if I got a death cert would it show parents names. Also I have to pinpoint when the query was made (pre 1922 I know) as it would give more info re Alex Jnr's birthdate.
Again thanks to everybody for your help.
annclare
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See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see what details are included on Scottish certificates.
Ancestry and Scotland's People both have census records- 1911 and actual images only with SP whilst Ancestry census records are transcripts (sometimes with strange interpretations).
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Annclare
Sarah Fullertons parents were Alexander Fullerton & Unity McCraven.
I am related to this family and have done some of the family tree.
I have a daughter born to Sarah & Bernard in 1883/ Her name was Annie. She married an Edward Fullerton on 9 Nov 1911 in Lexington Boston USA. They had at least 3 children up until 1919.
Edward Fullertons parents were John Fullerton & Ellen Jack (possibly Jackson). From what I have to date Edward's father John & Annie's Mother Sarah would have been cousins.
Would love to know your friends connection to this family.
Regards
Marie
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What a surprise to get this information and thanks for posting it. I was checking out the brief info from the 1851 census that gave an Alexander Fullerton with wife Sarah in Shandrim- is this a different family? Am interested where you got the details of Alexander and Unity as with the parish records starting so late I was at a loss to know here to search next. The only possible lead I had was the Scottish one.
I know very little about this family as I am helping a friend of a friend with whom I'm not in direct contact - but will PM you later.
annclare
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Annclare
Part of this family tree was completed in the mid 1970's and the wifes names was provided then. I will have to check out the pension return you mention.
Will let you know if I find out anything.
Regards
Marie
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Re Census search form the correct address for the Alex Fullerton making the request to search the census for the family of Alex & Sarah Fullerton of Shandrim was Duntason Drumfries. So he was living in Donegal not Scotland at the time of application 18 Jan 1918 . Curiously I can't find him in the 1901 but found him in the 1911 census age 62 in Shandrim. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Mintiaghs/Shandrim/492422/
Would there a connection with the family of Sarah Fullerton?
annclare
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Have just found out that Alexander Fullerton of the 1911 Census married Mary O Donnell of Sledrin in 1888.
annclare
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I have an Edward Fullerton, son of Alexander Fullerton, married Mary Coyle in Carndonagh 8 Feb 1871. Edward's address is given as Minaward. There is no Address given for Alexander. Mary & Edward had 3 children, Mary Ann b 1872 in Buncrana district, Alexander b 1880 in Derry and Bridget b 1879 in Derry. Does any of this fit with you?