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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: quest40 on Thursday 15 November 12 13:08 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
For some years I have been researching my Conquest ancestors and have made very good progress, but have never been able to get back further than Thomas Conquest born about 1706 in Cardington, married to Judith Bettle. However, since getting on line at home, rather than using library computers, I have subscribed to Ancestry, where several trees have this branch going back to Sir Richard Conquest of Houghton Conquest and further.
I can't find anyone with any evidence of the truth of this, and I am sceptical about it.
I wonder what other Rootschatters think.
Ann
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Hi Ann
I have my tree on Ancestry but there are no sources listed as my thinking is that while they may be related to a lot of people the actual research is mine. Saying that, if anyone asks how I've come to my conclusions I gladly share the info with them.
As far as I am aware at the moment our trees aren't linked so may I suggest that you ask them. I have done this many times as I take their info as a sign post and then go and check things for myself.
If they are genuine they will reply.
I hope this helps
Half Pint
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Hi Half Pint
Thanks for your reply, yes I have asked some of the tree owners, but haven't had any replies as yet. I shall await with interest! Ann
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Hi Ann
If you find anybody in Slip End please let me know
Half Pint
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... never been able to get back further than Thomas Conquest born about 1706 in Cardington
What's the evidence that he was born in Cardington? Beds at a reasonable guess perhaps, but as I can't see any Conquests in Cardington before the marriage I question whether Thomas was born there. Whilst it's another reasonable supposition that he was connected somehow to the well known Conquest family, proving it is another matter. And as for the Ancestry trees that show Thomas as being born in Cardington in 1706 but baptised in Pirton six years earlier, they demonstrate why I place no reliance on Ancestry trees! The first might be a typo, but the rest? The sheep mentality! The absence of sources does not add to my confidence as to their reliance.bility
I'd look to see if wills might shed any light on the family
David
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Hello David
Thanks for your input, yes sorry you are right that there's no evidence for Thomas having been born in Cardington - from memory when posting, I thought that I'd found him in Cardington Parish Records, but as you say, it was his marriage to Judith Bettle which took place there.
It seems you are as sceptical as me about some Ancestry family trees! Only all right if you can check the facts yourself.
Ann
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It seems you are as sceptical as me about some Ancestry family trees!
Not some. Most. And the further back you go the more doubtful they become, particularly if they emigrated to America
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Hi,
I think I've heard it all now! A cousin in Australia has just informed me that his research into the Conquest line and also that of his maternal line both lead back to 'Richard 1st, 3rd Duke de Normande, 933-996'. Talk about wishful thinking!
I have told him that I can't prove anything about our Conquest line before the marriage of Thomas to Judith Bettle, but doubt if it will make any difference! Oh well, I don't suppose I can influence what he wants to believe!
Ann
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Hello Ann
There was a Conquest family living in Toddington Beds when i was a kid in the 70's....you may be already aware of them!!...I have no idea how long they've been in the village, or indeed if they're still there.....I just thought i'd let you know, as it might be of help to you....
china
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Hello China,
I didn't know about a Conquest family in Toddington, but I don't think they connect with my line, as most of them had left Beds by then. It's surprised me how many Conquest families there are with what I first thought would be a very uncommon name!
Anyway, thanks for the info, you never know if it is going to be useful.
Ann
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Hi Ann
I have just started my investigations and I too seem to have got as far as you using Ancestry, wondered if you had any further luck?
We are a small cluster of Conquests in East Herts.
Claire
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Hi Claire
No, I'm still stuck at the marriage of Thomas Conquest to Judith Bettles, as this is as far back as I can prove for my line - others speculate about previous generations, but have no records to back it up.
I haven't so far been able to find any connections with other Conquest families, although Thomas might be a key, as I don't know when or where he was born.
Good luck with your research, Ann
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Hi
Wondering if you could confirm if my Conquest (1) is correct and (2) if it is linked to yours
My tree has an Ann Conquest born c 1705 who married a John Wright b c1703
This line eventually marries up with the Swannell family
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Hi,
I'm afraid I haven't got any further back with my Conquest family than Thomas and Judith as mentioned above. Thomas may have had a sister Ann, but I don't know of her. Sorry I can't be any more help.
Ann
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Thank you for taking the time , if you do come across something post it in here and I will be immensely grateful.
Thank you :)
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Hi Thomas conquest is my relative but I cannot go back any further either, the interesting thing it all of us that are asking for help on this are related . I found his death record and says he was born in Bedford .
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Welcome to Rootschat!
I'd be interested to know the source of the death record that you've found, as the only record that I can find is a burial record in Cardington on 25 May 1751 of Thomas Conquest, labourer, with no other detail.
David
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Hi,
David has beaten me to it - I was also going to ask what death record you had found for Thomas?
Ann
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Born on 1706. Thomas married Judith Beetle and had 7 children. He passed away on 1751 in Cardington, Bedfordshire, England.
Family Members
Plus have you seen the conquests family site , there is a gap but the first record of the conquest family is in 1219, sir Richard Conquest a knight in 1607, as I said the best place to look is the Conquest family site in ancestry.com
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A few comments:
- what's the evidence that he was born in 1706? This looks to me to be a guestimate. No baptism has been found, and as would be expected in 1751, no age was given on burial
- the burial entry is merely Thomas Conquest, labourer. There are no death records before 1837, and burials have never shown birthplace
- anything relating to the Conquest family of Cardington before 1726 is speculation. No-one knows who Thomas Conquest was, where he was from, nor who his parents were.
- there's more than one tree on Ancestry named Conquest Family Tree. Who's the owner of the one you recommend?
- I place no credibility on Ancestry trees, which are good as guides only, with details needing to be checked against original records
- the early Conquest family is fairly well documented, including a pedigree on the Visitation of Bedfordshire. The problem is establishing whether or not Thomas descends from them.
David
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I agree with your comments, David, as you say, we can't prove anything before Thomas's marriage to Judith Bettle in Cardington in 1726. To my mind it is rather unlikely that Thomas is descended from the early documented Conquest family, but we shall probably never know.
In any case, for myself I am pleased to have got back as far as Thomas! I didn't expect to get back so far when I started my research into my maternal grandmother's family.
Ann
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Thomas Conquest
Found 10 Records, 2 Photos and 39,527 Family Trees
Born on 1706. Thomas married Judith Beetle and had 7 children. He passed away on 1751 in Cardington, Bedfordshire, England.
Family Members
Parents
Unavailable
Unavailable
Spouse(s)
Judith Beetle
1706-1762
Children
John Conquest
1726-1731
Thomas Conquest
1730-1738
Mary Conquest
1731-1754
Susan Conquest
1733-1736
Edward Conquest
1736-1736
William Conquest
1738-1800
Ann Conquest
1746-1746
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I am on Genes Reunited you are welcome to view my tree it's in the name Kathleen smith
My mothers maiden name was conquest and both me and other members of my family have traced the family tree back.
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Hi all, I have since my last list found the family going back to the 600s. It is all on ancestry as I find it easier to do there. Your welcome to pop onto it.
Ann as you know we are related as with David. Hope you had a good Christmas.