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Title: 1851 look up please
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 14 November 12 10:41 GMT (UK)
Hi

Can someone have a look at the image on FindMyPast please for HO107, Piece 2225, Folio 8, Page 9. It is for a Charles Hall, age 21, born 1830, Manchester, living Cornwall Street with Hannah Walley. I can only access the index. By deduction (as he is not transcribed on Ancestry) I have seen the image on Ancestry but it is very poor and can only make out Hannah and with imagination Charles. I know sometimes from past experience some images are better on another site.

I am hoping the names of the other members can be seen, I think 3 daughters.

Many thanks Evie
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 14 November 12 11:02 GMT (UK)
Dear Evie

Sorry I have had a look at this and the image is very poor - very dark and the bottom of the paper is torn away - you can see that there are  3 daughters Martha aged 16 and then on aged 13  both born Macclesfield and the 3rd daughter born Manchester.

Sorry I can't be more helpful - do you need them on any other censuses?

best wishes

Maria
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 14 November 12 11:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Maria :)

Thank you so much that is very helpful as I couldn't see Martha and she was one of the girls I was hoping for. Very useful to have the places of birth too. I did try to reply earlier but the message timed out and was lost. Have to pop out now but will get back to you. I now have Charles I think in 1861 but haven't yet looked for the girls.

I have the family in 1841, mother remarried in 1849 to Joseph Walley.

Evie
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 14 November 12 11:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Maria :)

Thank you so much that is very helpful as I couldn't see Martha and she was one of the girls I was hoping for. Very useful to have the places of birth too. I did try to reply earlier but the message timed out and was lost. Have to pop out now but will get back to you. I now have Charles I think in 1861 but haven't yet looked for the girls.

I have the family in 1841, mother remarried in 1849 to Joseph Walley.

Evie
Hiya Evie....
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
1849
Joseph Walley to Hannah Hall       Manchester St John  Manchester   STJ/9/122
Joseph Walley to Hannah Smith    Manchester St John  Manchester   STJ/9/122
In case you didn`t have it - Hannahs maiden name was Smith ..... :)
allan
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 14 November 12 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hello Evie  :)

You give Charles Hall born c 1830 Manchester

from garsonite's post I wonder if this is his parents marriage

26 Dec 1824 Manchester Lancashire John Hall to Hannah Smith

you can see that there are  3 daughters
Martha aged 16 and then on aged 13  both born Macclesfield
and the 3rd daughter born Manchester.


I have found these baptisms on Cheshire OPC I wonder if it is them

16/11/1834 St Michael Macclesfield
Martha Hall parents John Hall cordwainer & Hannah residence Macclesfield

05/08/1837 St Michael
Harriet Hall parents John Hall cordwainer & Hannah  "                     "

27 May 1832 St Michael’s
Elizabeth Hall  parents John Hall Shoemaker & Hannah "                 "


Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 14 November 12 13:09 GMT (UK)
Brilliant thanks everyone :)

John was definitely a shoemaker, lots of info here. Children's baptisms, Hannah's maiden name and marriage.

Heather also found a baptism for son Thomas - see this post

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=623191.new;topicseen

So we just need Charles and the youngest daughter now - unknown name or age.

I wonder what happened to Elizabeth as she wasn't on the 1841 census with parents.

Thanks again all

Evie
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 14 November 12 13:22 GMT (UK)
Dear Evie

Have just had another look at the 1851 census & the transcript has the final daughter as ? ? unmarried aged 23 and born 1828 - don't think this is correct though - looks like they have picked up another number circled on top as her age.

Best wishes

Maria  :)
Title: Re: 1851 look up please
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 14 November 12 13:39 GMT (UK)
Dear Evie

Have just had another look at the 1851 census & the transcript has the final daughter as ? ? unmarried aged 23 and born 1828 - don't think this is correct though - looks like they have picked up another number circled on top as her age.

Best wishes

Maria  :)

Yes I see what you mean, I think it is some sort of count when the census was checked.

Evie