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Title: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: astley7 on Monday 12 November 12 22:32 GMT (UK)

I am looking for information or push in the right direction on where I could obtain a street map of Merthyr Tydfil.

Thank you for reading

Lisa

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: DORAN54 on Monday 12 November 12 23:48 GMT (UK)

hi ,  have you tried  to google or possibly try the library

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: GrahamSimons on Tuesday 13 November 12 08:21 GMT (UK)

You'll find the Old Merthyr Tydfil website is an absolute goldmine. Some of the links that Google offers don't seem to work, but this link gets you in:

http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/contact_us.htm

There's a useful forum, too.

Another avenue of approach: Merthyr Library has knowledgeable and helpful staff.

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: Morganllan on Tuesday 13 November 12 23:33 GMT (UK)

Hello  :)

Not sure about earlier but there is a map 1875-6 on Old Maps:

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=305100,206100

You can also buy and download historical maps from the Cassini website.

Best Wishes
Morgan

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: k8muse on Friday 19 September 25 03:35 BST (UK)

Were you able to find a good street map? 
Thanks
Katie

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: MollyC on Friday 19 September 25 12:50 BST (UK)

Unfortunately the OS did not survey Wales until relatively late, and the National Library of Scotland seems to have gaps in its collection of early editions of the 1:2500 scale (25-inch).

This is the 6-inch sheet surveyed 1868-75.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102342433.

The 25-inch layer revised 1897-98 has a hole in it.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.0&lat=51.74536&lon=-3.37587&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: hanes teulu on Friday 19 September 25 13:46 BST (UK)

I think this is the map originally delivered at reply #3. I believe Welsh town plans are available on NLS?

https://viewer.library.wales/4715635#?xywh=-7895%2C-2032%2C22883%2C12873

Title: Re: 1800's -1840s street maps - Merthyr Tydfil
Post by: MollyC on Friday 19 September 25 14:12 BST (UK)

Unfortunately Old Maps became a subscription site due to mis-use by commercial interests.

Amongst the NLS town plans series there is no early plan for Merthyr Tydfil at 1:1056, c1850.  Those were only produced for larger places.  The only plan is 1:500, 1875, the same as the National Library of Wales.  It is a good plan but involves a lot of sheets, so tedious if you do not know approximately where to look.

Correction.  This is the georeferenced layer for that.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.0&lat=51.74802&lon=-3.37527&layers=117746211&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

The NLS older street index is derived from the much smaller 6-inch scale, c1900, and I have found some streets are not named in that, in busy areas.

The Old Maps scans are those done by Landmark from the OS's own files, during the 1990s I think, and are not such good resolution as the NLS scans.
So it is swings and roundabouts!