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Title: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: snowathlete on Wednesday 07 November 12 15:43 GMT (UK)
Cecil Arthur Lionel Trevor George Herbert Gorelangton was born in Bath, Somerset 25 Aug 1882. He died in Hawaii.

We think that he may have been illegitimate son of William Stephen Temple-Gore Langton of Newton Park, Newton St Loe, Somerset. Cecil Arthur claimed he was his son but William was not married to Cecil's supposed mother and had other children by his wife, so if this claim is correct then it looks like an illegitimate birth.
However, there is no birth record for Cecil, at least, not as a Gore-Langton, Temple-Gore Langton, Gorelangton or Gore Langton. We suspect he may have been registered under his mothers name, or some other name. His mother was apparently Mary Ethel Pross, but we cant find record of her or him with that name either.

Not really sure how to go about finding Cecil's birth registeration (if there was one) without a known surname, and of course he seems to have a crazy number of middle names so maybe he is registered under any one of them. We know he mainly went by the name Cecil Arthur, or Arthur Cecil.

What we do have is the birth date, so is anyone able to search by Birth Date for Somerset and find if anyone with any of these names comes up?

Thanks in advance!
Best
Joel
Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 07 November 12 16:01 GMT (UK)
Looking on free BMD for the quarter Jul/Aug/Sep 1882 and anything with a Christian name of Cecil, in Somerset, brings up 9 possibilities.

But none have Arthur as another Christian name.

Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 07 November 12 16:08 GMT (UK)
Where did you find his date and place of birth from, and the fact that his mum is Mary Ethel Pross?

I can find no records of any one with that set of names either.
Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: DRH123 on Wednesday 07 November 12 23:15 GMT (UK)
Looking on free BMD for the quarter Jul/Aug/Sep 1882 and anything with a Christian name of Cecil, in Somerset, brings up 9 possibilities.

But none have Arthur as another Christian name.


There is Cecil Arthur BROWN in Bath in  July quarter 1882.

BathBMD shows that he was registered in Walcot and his mother's maiden name was CALF.
So not looking very likely.


David
Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: DRH123 on Wednesday 07 November 12 23:36 GMT (UK)
Where did you find his date and place of birth from, and the fact that his mum is Mary Ethel Pross?

I can find no records of any one with that set of names either.

This account suggests that she was American, and that she was married to a Gore Langton but they don't know which.

http://www.escohis.org/pdf/1986_02_echoes.pdf  (page 2)

David
Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 07 November 12 23:57 GMT (UK)
William Stephen Temple-Gore-Langton, b 1847 died in 1902.
By that time he had acquired the title of Earl Temple of Stowe.
He married Helen Mabel Graham-Montgomery in 1870.
Lady Stowe died 1919.

No 2nd marriage?! ???
Title: Re: illegitimate birth registered under an unknown surname
Post by: snowathlete on Friday 16 November 12 21:15 GMT (UK)
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Poor health.
Thanks for the replies. Yes, that link above to that .pdf file is pretty much all we have to go by. The author Tom is now dead but we have hot in contact with some family members in California so hopefully they still have Toms work. I found that his tree is also deposited at the California state library. Unfortunately it's not available online and I don't know anyone nearby.

Other gore lamgton descendants that we are in contact with dont know anything about this branch and it seems Earl temple gore Langton only married once and was married when this birth is said to have taken place.

So there isn't much to go on factually as yet.