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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: JMason on Monday 05 November 12 14:02 GMT (UK)
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I have come to a complete dead end. I've been searching for the parents of Joseph Barton b 23/5/1915 75 Cedar St. Derby.
I have his birth certificate, parents are listed as Joseph Edward Barton (Music teacher, Pianist) and Christina Mowatt Barton formerly Johnston. When Edward was a year old the family lodged with The Hamer family in Treharrie, Glamorgan. Edward was subsequently know as Edward Barton Hamer.
I've tried every search I can think of and cannot find a trace of his parents marriage, if it occurred or their births or deaths.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Mowatt and Johnston strike nme as Scottish names.
Any searches done there?
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I've tried the census search on ancestry for Scotland and scotlandspeople.gov site for a marriage with a date covering as far back as would be possible for a marriage bearing mind the date of birth of their son in 1915, no matches found.
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I found this piece about a Joseph Edward Barton from Llanelli who made violins - may be connected or pure coincidence:
http://www.llanellich.org.uk/Files/edward-joseph-barton.html
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Do you know whether Joseph b 1915 had any siblings?
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Scotland's People has the birth of a Christina Mowat* JOHNSTON born in 1892. :)
Note: You can't search SP for marriages after 1911. :(
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Edward had no siblings, as far as he was aware. His parents left him with The Hamer family in 1918, after signing a "memorandum of agreement" stating they were leaving him in the care of the Hamers. They never returned.
I have followed up the violin maker (census and marriage) and think it very unlikely that he was the father.
Thanks for the Birth info on Christina, I'll check it out.
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A search of the free 1911 in England using first name Joseph E (starting with) last name Barton, occupation Music* turned up a 35 year old Joseph Ed. Barton in Ashby de la Zouch, Leics. We're not allowed to do lookups but if you have access it may be worth looking at him.
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If you are using Ancestry - he is indexed as Jos Ed Barbor but you would need to check the full entry yourself as 1911 lookups are not allowed
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I've followed the one back that I found & if I've got the same one he'd lost a few years between 1901 & 1911 and would most likely be the June quarter birth 1867 in Weardale reg. district. Can't find a marriage to Christina after 1911 though - perhaps they weren't married.
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The free 1901 PRO index has a Joseph Ed Barton aged 33 b Durham and living in Cumberland
Occ Professor of Music
http://www.1901censusonline.com/results.asp?wci=person_results&searchwci=person_search
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Here's the full entry
Joseph Ed Barton 33 b Durham
Mary 34 b Cumberland Silloth
Lilian 9 ditto
Evelyn 7 ditto
Bertram 4 b Leicestershire
Irene 4 ditto
RG13 Piece 4867 Folio 165 Page 34
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Thanks everyone, think I'm on the right track now :)
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Wife Mary died 1910
Deaths December qtr 1910 Mary Barton aged 44 Wigton 10b 365
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Hello I don't know if you are still searching, nor if we have been in touch before. I do have information about Christina who was a relative of mine.