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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: l.plates on Sunday 04 November 12 20:44 GMT (UK)

Title: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Sunday 04 November 12 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hi

Help cannot find parants of George or Sarah???

George Harrison Born 1819 Wensley Derbyshire  Spouse  Sarah Harrison Born 1818 Westwood Sisli Lincolnshire

Any help would be much appreciated

Cheers
l,plates  ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 November 12 20:48 GMT (UK)
When did this couple wed?
What witnesses appear?
If after 1836 what fathers are given?
Pauline
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 November 12 20:54 GMT (UK)
What would be "wrong" about the George baptised at Darley?
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: spendlove on Sunday 04 November 12 22:30 GMT (UK)
Hi

The only entry whitch matches your post is on the 1851 Census for Castleford,  Yorkshire
HO107/2330 F 268 Pg 3

THE TRANSCRIPTION STATES:-

Harrison George    32  Cord Wainer          Yorks  Glass Houses
    "   Sarah An      32                              Lincs Westwood Sisli
    "  Elizabeth         7                              Yorks Ferrybridge
    "  Sarah              6                                        "
Potter Thomas        54  Brick Layer            Yorks Kirkhammerton

Cannot see any connection to Derbyshire.

There is a George Harrison with wife Sarah in 1851 Census actually living in  township of Wensley & Snitterton
Derbyshire,  HO107/2150 F 119 Pg 11

Harrison George    32  Grocer       Derbys  Oker
  "       Sarah         32                   "         Matlock
  "      George          5                    "  Matlock Bath
  "      Samuel          2                            "
+ 1 servant

Which family did you need details for?

Possible marriage for the Derbyshire couple:-
George Harrison = Sarah Walton 28.1.1845 Tansley Derbyshire, brides father George Walton none stated for groom 

Spendlove
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Sunday 04 November 12 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Spendlove

They had children  elizabeth  1844,  Sarah 1845,  George 1846,  Samual  1849  james 1852  mary sophie 1854

sarah elizabeth 1856  Eliza  1859 and Francis William  1862.

The 1851 census  for castleford shows a  elizabeth and a Sarah and the other shows a George and a Samual is this possibly the same family??

l.plates
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 November 12 23:09 GMT (UK)
Where did you get the details of these kids from?
Looks rather like you have amalgamated two families into one with your list.
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Monday 05 November 12 00:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline

yer your right, thats how it looks, the info on sarah and george harrison is so limited dont know how I'm gonna work out which is the correct one??

l.plates
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: Billyblue on Monday 05 November 12 05:01 GMT (UK)
The George and Sarah Hon O107/2150 F 119 Pg 11 for Derbyshire
in the 1851 census are the right ages if you have the correct birth years.
George aged 5 would have been born c 1846 and Samuel aged 2 would have been born c1849.
You perhaps should look for deaths for the first two children?
The last 5 children of course would not be on 1851 census as not yet born   :)

Just a suggestion.
Dawn M
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 05 November 12 08:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline

yer your right, thats how it looks, the info on sarah and george harrison is so limited dont know how I'm gonna work out which is the correct one??

l.plates

Perhaps if you explain where your information came from (CONFIRMED information) then we could advise.
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: spendlove on Monday 05 November 12 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,

All the children you list belong to George & Sarah Harrison who on many census were living
Wensley Derbyshire George was born Oaker Derbys and Sarah Matlock Derbys.

Cannot imagine how the Derbyshire & Yorkshire families became confused, but perhaps it would be
a good idea to post which of their Children you are descended from and why you think the Yorksire
family is connected.

Can you also confirm that you have worked backwards from known ancestors.

Spendlove

Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Monday 12 November 12 19:42 GMT (UK)
Hi

Lillian May Harrison1904-1996 (My Grandmother)

Father
James Harold Harrison 1879-1960 spouse sarah Harrison 1883 - 1960

Father of James Harold Harrison =

Samual Harrison1849-  mother = Rose Bell Naylor

George Harrison1819-
Add Father
Add Mother
Sarah E Harrison1818-
Add Father
Add Mother

thats all I got

thank you for the info so far
l.plates
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Monday 12 November 12 20:17 GMT (UK)
1871 census shows

Household Members:

Name george Harrison

age 52

Sarah Harrison
age 53

Mary Sophia Harrison age 17

Sarah E Harrison age 15

Eliza Harrison 12

Francis W Harrison age 9

 
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: spendlove on Monday 12 November 12 21:49 GMT (UK)
Hi,

First do you agree that the Yorkshire family have no connection to yours who appear to come from and
lived in Derbyshire.

Lillian May Harrison born 1904 Darley Dale she has siblings
George Cyril born 1807 Derby.
Haydon Burrows born 1809 Derby.

Their parents were James Harold Harrison born 1879 Liverpool and Sarah Burrows born 1883 Eastwood,Notts
their marriage September Q 1903 Bakewell Registration District.

Parents of James Harold Harrison are Samuel Harrison Bpt 15.4.1849 Matlock Bath Birth Registered June Q 1849 Bakewell Registration District = Rose Bell G. Naylor born 1858 Sheffield who married June Q 1876 Bakewell Registration District.

Parents of Samuel Harrison are George Harrison born 1819 Oaker/Oker Derbys = Sarah Walton born 1819 Matlock  married 28.1.1845 Tansley, Derbys.  On this marriage the Brides Father given as George Walton
Grooms Father Samuel Harrison.

To obtain proof it is a good idea to purchase the birth registration certificate of eldest children, this will give mothers maiden name.

The above information from:-
Census
www.familysearch.org/search/collection/igi
www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

It is always a good idea when asking for information to give details of where individuals were born.

Spendlove
Title: Re: No Parents on Both sides
Post by: l.plates on Monday 12 November 12 22:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thats great spendlove, yer i have figured out that 2 different families had been put into one,  have already sent for certificates.

Thank you for all your help, will remember to put place of birth when requesting help.

l.plates