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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: wgreene on Sunday 04 November 12 18:15 GMT (UK)
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Looking for info on following:
Francis Greene m. Jane Keown about 1838. Sons James , Francis , Thomas
Thomas m. Sarah Mcilroy. June 2 1863 in kilmegan. Children: Francis John b. 1873 , Letitia b. 1868 , margaret b. 1870 , fransis catherine b. 1872 , john and james (twins) b. 1877. All baptized in clough or seaford .
Francis m. Annie Keith july 31, 1865 in kilmegan. Children :Francis Waring b. mar 15 1873 , annie jane b. oct 4 1868 , thomas james b. july 21, 1870, george b. jan 30, 1867.
May have lived in seaford and or loughenisland.
Help will be appreciated . WILLIAM GREENE
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What sort of information are you looking for?
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I don,t have birth dates for anyone other than those shown . I don,t have information on francis and janes mothers and fathers. Son james was born in 1839 . So francis probably dates to early 1800s.I would also be interested to know if any decendents are around. THANKS WILLIAM GREENE
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Hi William, you are lucky to have these records already. Its difficult to know what irish records you have searched for example knowing Ros Davies Co Down website on Rootsweb is good on marriage in particular the bride, I had a quick look up and revealed Miss Annie KEITH. Loughinisland regd. Clough ; wife of Francis Greene; mother of Annie Jane b. 1868 & Thomas James b. 1870 & Francis Waring Greene b. 1873 CR so presumably you know about this and hence you include Clough? Do you know all the marriage details from a church record?
The loughinisland reference is what I was after. What do you know about Seaford. My advice is to offer more in particular every townland and civil parish as that is how many sources are listed, have you already exhausted familysearch.com. You quote you have baptisms, which church can help backwards and forward.
Kilmegan records are not straightforward, hence me asking for townland references These early 1860s get complex sometimes as to whether there are good clues in Griffiths valuation eg Thomas might have moved house during the valuation from Kilmegan to Loughinisland.
Good luck in your quest Over to you
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THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT I JUST FOUND MORE AND WILL TRANSMIT TOMORROW . i HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THE TOWNLANDS , PARISHS ETC. I AM A DUMB DISPLACED IRISHMAN . WE WILL POST MORE INFO TOMORROW. THANKS BILL GREENE ;)
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Thanks again for all the input . When i plugged in downpatrick as a registery , i got the following :
Francis greene The father b. 1802 d, 1873 reg. downpatrick (may be father of thomas and francis) .
Jane anne greene (jane keown ?
) the mother and possible wife of francis the father .
Thomas greene Possibly a son married to sarah mcilroy b. 1836 d. 1897 reg. downpatrict. Children margaret , francis catherine , letitia , francis john ,john , james ,mary elizabeth , and annie jane .
Francis greene Possibily a son married to anny keith daughter of george keith. b. 1842 d. 1907 downpatrick registration district. children francis waring , annie jane ,thomas james , and george . I can,t find a townland
for any of these people
James immigrated to canada b. 1839 d. 1884 toronto canada.
Francis john, son of thomas , immigrated to canada in 1901 . Can,t find any further trace.
Have been unable to find Francis the son on 1901 census
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Hi Bill, years ago I made a rushed index for my own use in a library that I was thankfully employed in, and your mention of Downpatrick triggered my memory. One Green and one Greene family trees etc appear in Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in the LinenHall Library, Belfast. As you probably live in Canada, then I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing. Perhaps only start with the Greene tree However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Its website has contact tel, email etc
The volume references are
GREEN 52p16 has been marked wrong ref? so ignore
GREENE 27 However i didnt add page numbers which suggests to me either it has a contents page or the volume had no page numbers
Hoping this is includes new information for you. The library also had mss on Loughinisland, but that was outside the actual tree collections I tried to index.
This morning I looked at Griffiths valuation but wasn't able to get on it. I looked at your other posts, have you looked for your surnames in Dungiven in Griffiths {you might need to know what civil parish it falls into}
good luck, Jim
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I also found a waring greene of kilkeel husband of margaret orr and father of john and francis b. 1846 d. 1894 . This may be another brother of thomas , francis and james. James had a son named waring.
Also found a thomas greene of loughenisland registered owner of the sloop rose .
If anyone can shed any light let me know. Thanks Wiiliam J. Greene USA
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Hi Again I just found a francis greene of newry bally holland upper in griffths valuation could be my gg grandfather . Anybody know anything? Can anybody tell me what the townland of ballyholland upper is near? His death could have been recorded in downpatrick 1802 - 1873 . Any help appreciated bill greene
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seeher map of townlands http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/NewryTownlands.htm
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seeher map of townlands http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/NewryTownlands.htm
Hi currently researching men from my locality (Dundrum County Down) who served in the Great War, and have 2 with surname Greene, James Greene served with the North Irish Horse and survived the war, his son and daughter both still attend Kilmegan Parish Church outside Dundrum, William W Greene listed on the memorial tablet as a casualty, i have spoken to both the Greene family members , and they believe William W was a relative of James, possible a cousin? and they also believe that he served with the Canadian Expeditionary Force, but i have not been able to find any record of him so far.
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Welcome to Rootschat. I've researched several local War Memorials and there are always 'strays' that didn't come from the place but get listed because of a family connection or they visited with some of the local gentry, etc. making them harder to trace.
Canadian Attestation papers from WWI are online (free). Nothing for a William W. Greene but there's a William Greene born Derriaghy here-
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc005/362450a.gif&id_nbr=429818
You can search here-
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
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William Greene in Canadian record (above) in 1911 census with parents James & Lucinda-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Derryaghy/Magheralave/197462
same family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Derryaghey/Magheralane/997151
Can't see any Dundrum connection yet. Also tried CWGC site but no luck there either.
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Saw your post . My great grandfather james greene died in canada in 1884 . I beleive he had brothers or cousins named thomas and francis married in killkeel . Tom married sarah mcilroy and francis married annie keith , both in the 1860,s .There also may have been another brother named waring who married margaret orr . These people had mamy children who could have served in ww 1. Any info would be greatly appreciated. WILLIAM GREENE :D
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There was a son james born to thomas greene and sarah mcelroy in 1877 . His greatgrandpa could have been francis greene of newry , down , ireland . ???