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Title: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 03 November 12 16:11 GMT (UK)
Can anyone do a lookup for Henry Baylie Cullerne in New Zealand born 8 Sep 1856 Gravesend Kent please.
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 03 November 12 17:02 GMT (UK)
Hi
He appears over many years
these are just the indexed ones
Henry Baylie Cullerne 1896 Waitemata Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1900 Auckland Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1905-1906 Parnell Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1911 Parnell Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1914 Parnell Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1919 Auckland West Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1928 Eden Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1928 Grey Lynn Auckland 
 Henry Baylie Cullerne 1935 Grey Lynn Auckland

Are you looking for specific info?
If you are after full details on each, then a trip to a library that has ancestry may be of use
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 03 November 12 17:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks Althea.

No nothing specific,there just wasnt a death for him that looked right and he isnt with his wife on census except 1891 by 1911 she says widowed but Ancestry threw up the NZ angle.He was an architect .It most probably is him then as its such an unusual name.

thanks again
Isy ???
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Lance Matthews on Saturday 03 November 12 17:21 GMT (UK)
Could you please help me. Looking for records for Hannah & Richard Thom(p)son, who were born in Ireland and came to New Zealand before 1910
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 03 November 12 17:23 GMT (UK)
Hello Lance
you really should start your own thread if you have a query as this was about Henry Cullerne.
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 03 November 12 17:38 GMT (UK)
could it have been a son with same name?
Source   1896 Electoral Roll
Electorate   Waitemata
Surname   CULLERNE
Given Names   Henry Baylie
Place of Residence   Kaukapakapa
Occupation   Architect and surveyor
Nature of Qualification   Residential
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 03 November 12 17:39 GMT (UK)
Heres the death registration at NZ BMD
1937/14999 Cullerne  Henry Baylie  82Y

Bye
Althea

Death notice for above
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS19370710.2.5&srpos=310&e=-------100--301-byDA---0cullerne--

Cemetery details
http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/Services/OnlineServices/pages/IFCemetry.aspx
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 03 November 12 20:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Althea.I think that must be him.on marriage certificate it says architect and surveyor,also he only had 1 daughter with his wife born 1894 and I have all her details.
I,m very grateful

Isy ;D

His wife died 1922 so maybe he married Mary Anne after that date.
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Janette on Saturday 03 November 12 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Issy

What was his wife's name?
There are these 2 births

1902/17724 Cullerne  Leslie Carroll / Margie/ Annie Henry
1901/9715 Cullerne  Henry Owen / Mary/ Henry
 and very few deaths on BDM's

1937/14999 Cullerne  Henry Baylie  82Y
1946/34970 Cullerne  Mary Ann  80Y
1977/41564 Cullerne  Gladys May  born 14 March 1904
1981/30346 Cullerne  Elsie May  born 23 September 1902
1988/52579 Cullerne  Henry Owen  born 1 July 1900
1991/44604 Cullerne  Leslie Carroll  born 18 September 1903

obviously the informant for the death of Leslie Carroll  Cullerne didn't know his birth year


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 03 November 12 21:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Janette.The help on this site is incredible.I hope Lance managed to get some answers. ;D
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 03 November 12 21:56 GMT (UK)
They were obvioulsy living as married, in 1911
Source   1911 Electoral Roll
Electorate   Parnell
Surname   CULLERNE Given Names   Marzie Anne
Place of Residence   Abbotsford Street Newmarket
Occupation   married

H B C at same address

Bye
althea
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Janette on Sunday 04 November 12 00:29 GMT (UK)
Here is a marriage of a son in 1931

Auckland Star, Volume LXII, Issue 8, 10 January 1931, Page 1


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s1f/


It seems both parents were still alive.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Janette on Sunday 04 November 12 00:33 GMT (UK)
The Engagement notice for the same couple

Auckland Star, Volume LXI, Issue 306, 27 December 1930, Page 13

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s1g/

The surname is hyphenated,Bailey-Cullerne.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 04 November 12 04:47 GMT (UK)

His wife died 1922 so maybe he married Mary Anne after that date.

Hi Isy

Just a little more (in case you're interested about Mary Ann ? )  ;)

There doesn't appear to have been a marriage between Mary Ann (Marzie / Margie) and Henry Baylie CULLERNE.

Mary Ann was formerly known as (surname) SPERRY and the births, 1901 and 1902, of her sons with Henry, also appear on the Birth index under SPERRY.

She apparently came to NZ from the USA with a husband and 2 sons.

PapersPast has a couple of items regarding her brave soldier sons, Fabian and Reginald P. SPERRY.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Auckland Star" - 24 September 1915 - Roll of Honour
[re: Francis Fabian M. SPERRY - s/o Mrs M. CULLERNE of 69 Summer Road, Auckland.
1919 - Auckland West e/roll has - Mary Ann and Henry CULLERNE, Architect, at that same address. ]

"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 11 December 1917 - Personal Matters
[re: R.P. SPERRY (Reginald) - s/o Mrs CULLERNE ]

Additional details of these boys at Auckland Museum Cenotaph website  >

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/basicsearch.aspx?Dataset=cenotaph

   ~  Lu


 
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 04 November 12 14:36 GMT (UK)
Wow!!! very interesting links.Thanks again Lucy2,Althea and Janette
very much appreciated
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Fleetfoot on Sunday 16 December 12 18:11 GMT (UK)
Hello Isy

I have only recently started researching my family tree and this is my first ever post on Rootschat having enrolled today. I thought I would start by just doing a forum search on one of my family names (obviously avoiding Jones and Davies) and so picked Cullerne. I was amazed to find a thread referring to Henry Baylie Cullerne who I am related to.

He was the son of Charles Pultney Cullerne who in turn was the son of Baylie Cullerne but I guess that you probably already know all of this. I was wondering what your relationship is to him and how far back you have managed to trace the Cullernes?

Apologies for my enquiry but this is all new to me and quite exciting spotting a name from my tree. Not sure how to send PMs or if they are possible on Rootschat.

Nick
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 16 December 12 18:27 GMT (UK)
Maybe a different Henry Baylie Cullerne on mine his father is Baylie Cullerne and mother Elizabeth Rowland,according to his baptism record 25 Dec 1819
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 16 December 12 18:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick
and welcome, once you have made 2 more posts you will be able to use PM system..info in help

Try starting some new threads on different family members and see what info can be found

Start at main page for NZ
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,299.0.html
and select new topic

Bye
Althea
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Fleetfoot on Sunday 16 December 12 19:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Althea,

Thanks very much for the welcome message and the info.

Regarding the thread subject I am now a bit confused as the initial post was asking about a Henry Baylie Cullerne born 8 Sept 1856 in Gravesend, Kent which is a match I have in my family tree but now Isobelruss you say he was baptised in 1819?

I did point out that I am new to this and I may have errors (ie wrong parent names) further down the ancestral line, but as there were unlikely to have been two Henry Baylie Cullernes born in Gravesend in 1856 I thought it was worth asking if there was a family link.
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 16 December 12 19:37 GMT (UK)
sorry fleetfoot.

Henry Baylie Cullerne was born 8 Sep 1856 baptized as an adult 19 Nov 1884 at same place he married in 23 Apr 1885 to Alice Rebecca Edwardes his certificate gives Baylie Henry Cullerne as his father and I have him on census with him and his mother Mary Ann Cartwright.He had a daughter with Alice in 1887 Gladys Mary Cullerne.I have her marriage,baptism and will.He disappeared from England after her birth and appears in Australia.
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Monday 17 December 12 05:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Fleetfoot
Sorry to confuse
What I meant was if you have a new query on the family it may help to start a thread with the heading eg
Baylie Henry Cullerne in New Zealand

People looking would see this current thread as query on an electoral roll
so sometime you are more likely to gather new family info and contacts if the thread name lures them to click and find more

Great to see some new poster popping in
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Wayman on Wednesday 19 December 12 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hi there - can anyone help please with electoral roll in 1936 in Christchurch new Zealand.   I am trying to get the actual date of birth for Alfred William Wayman - born in Camberwell London in probably 1873. (Arrived NZ 1927 I think).  Thanks, pauline
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 19 December 12 22:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline

Mmm ... the electoral rolls won't help you in finding "date of birth" for this man.

The was no Christchurch e/roll in 1936 ... 1935 is the nearest.

1935 - Canterbury - Avon Roll

WAYMAN

- Alfred William - occupation:  cook

- Arthur Herbert - pastrycook
- Rose Ann - married    .... all residing at 48 Bligh Street.

   ~  Lu

Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 19 December 12 22:50 GMT (UK)
This death > @ NZ BDM (online)

1950 - WAYMAN - Alfred William Blundell - 78 years
   [bc 1872 ]

Is this who you were looking for ?
Title: Re: NZ Electoral Rolls 1853-1981
Post by: Isobelruss on Thursday 20 December 12 14:32 GMT (UK)
If thats your man that Lucy found heres his marriage

5 Nov 1905
Alfred William Wayman 38 bachelor  cook abode 128 Waterloo Street,Father Watson Wayman(deceased) compositor
Rose Ann Cook 29 spinster of 18 Caspian Street,father George Cook french polisher
Emmanuel Church Camberwell.

so he would have been born 1867

But on most census hes was born 1873
they had twin daughter
Ada Elsie and Edith Florence baptised 21 Oct 1906 born 12 Aug 1906 Edith Florence died.Baptised Camberwell. Also another child Frederick born 1910.
do any of these names match your Alfred?
Alfred was born Lambeth.He had a sister Annabella born 1852 who I suspect could be his mother as his parents would have been a little old and such a massive age difference between the 2 children.