RootsChat.Com
Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: busybod on Thursday 01 November 12 17:58 GMT (UK)
-
I've just been on Mundia and found that someone has my Gt Grandmother on their tree. They have her married to someone with the same name as mine, but a different spelling. Also this man is 22yrs her junior. According to their tree she has 3 children, all with the correct names. Thats where the similarity ends, according to their tree her husband had 5 wives and 22 children!!
If its not a silly question, what do I do.
-
Is there a way of contacting them t tell them what a load of rubbish?
It is things like this that make me adamant I will never put my tree online! I have seen ancestors of mine with absolute rubbish trees attached to them. Once I contacted a person and pointed out that x couldnt possibly be the father of Y, firstly because I had seen y's christening record in the PR's in the parish where he continually said he was born, and secondly the family they had quoted were in the censuses in a completely different part of the country, with the alleged aforementioned child still at home and single even after the known marriage and given that they were on the census elsewhere with their wife, which I gave refereences for. The person had the decency to reply and agree, and then to remove the info. But he/she said he/she had just copied it from other trees. Yes, when I looked there are about 6 with this erroneus info, presumably all blindly copied from each other. I couldnt be bothered to contact them all. If they want tofollow an incorrect line so be it. But I hate it when others just copy it and take it as fact, when the facts clearly prove otherwise.
Rant over !!!!!!!
-
I can send a message via Mundia, which I will do, asking them where they get this information from. I think it said on Mundia that their tree had something like ten thousand and something names on their tree. Cant see the point of just collecting names.
-
That is the problem, a lot of people with large trees are name collectors and as long as it sounds vaguely right they add it to their tree.
I found a tree with my grandfather added. The person had also given him a different middle name and married him to someone else. I contacted them with the proof they were wrong and they agreed. However I've recently noticed that, even after two years, he is still on their tree. Obviously if they removed him, they would have to remove the 50 or so people under him and I guess they dont want to do this
Hopefully when you contact the person they will respond, but I'm afraid the likelihood is that they will just ignore you.
-
I've found the same sort of thing on Mundia.
One man in Canada has my gt grandfather born in Haddington, which he was, then after the 1881 Scottish census moves him over to the USA then moves him back to England for his death in 1929.
My gt grandfather actually married in Haddington in 1883, they had 4 children there then moved into England in 1891 where they added to their family living in the same small town until his death.
It doesn't bother me one jot - I know who's got the correct details and it certainly isn't the Canadian ;)
-
Hi,
I've sent this person a message, asking him where he got the information and saying I dont know what he gets out of putting people on his tree that dont belong to him. I'm not holding my breath for a response. When I think about it, I know I am the one who has the right information so why should I worry.
Thanks for the replies everyone, made me feel a whole lot better.
-
Mundia is part of Ancestry and all the public trees on Ancestry are viewable on Mundia. Probably most of the trees that you see are from ancestry. Your problem is an ongoing and worsening one on Ancestry and obviously now Mundia. The advantage of Mundia whilst it is in it's beta state is that you can search Ancestry trees for free, you just need a big sieve.
-
Oh, don't let me start on this subject!
Suffice it to say that some people will not accept that they are wrong. A tree with 68000+ names includes swathes of my family who shouldn't be there; the tree compiler has no connection at all to any of them.
Obviously a scoop was used, not a sieve. :-X
My cousin and I have both informed this 'researcher' that our grandmother did not have the middle name that she has blessed her with, and our gt uncle apparently died in 1902 at the tender age of 5. How marvelous then for him to have fought in WW1, unfortunately dying on the battlefield.
I could go on, and on, and ....................................
but I shan't.
Does have the grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr factor though, doesn't it?
Su
-
Sorry Su if I've got you started, but you obviously know what I mean.
-
Infuriating,I also have contacted a researcher on Ancestry who also included my Grandfather in their tree-no relation whatsoever with them,I have pointed this out to them and asked if they had the documents to back this up,no answer.I then put my Grandpfathers birth cert' marriage and death cert' on line-just in case some one else copies their work(In respect for my Grandfather).I have had no response other than them saying not the same person-they still have him on Ancestry on their Tree after 2yrs.After contacting Ancestry they are unable to do anything about this.
I will not now put anymore info' on line.
So I would not ever bother contacting people again who do not do their research properly,because they don't want to know-just take anything that fits it seems.
Grumble over.
Wendoree
-
I don't bother trying to contact the tree owners - but I DO add a comment to the particular person stating that the information on the tree is incorrect, and adding what I know to be correct. Not that it probably does much good, but it makes me feel a bit better :D
But what really makes me mad, and it's my own fault, I guess. I gave some information to someone, who added it to their tree but also had him re-christened into the Mormon church. Whatever our own current religious beliefs, I think we should respect the beliefs of our ancestors, after all they had their own reasons for following any particular religion, and who are we change them. >:(
-
I think most people have had the same thing happen to them, that is why I made my tree private.
Sharon
-
Of course, it could be possible that the original poster has found a complete co-incidence. I've found marriages between people of the same names as my g.g. grandparents, but having children with the same names is a bit of a longer shot, but not entirely out of the question if they have chosen names which were popular at the time.
Anyway, this sort of thing is annoying, but there isn't much you can do about it, other than to point out the errors to them.
-
I changed my Ancestry tree to Private simply because I was fed up with seeing that people had downloaded photos and information from it but never bothered to contact me.
I'm quite happy to share any of my finding with people who return the favour but why should I let others 'take' my things without so much as saying 'Hello- I think we are related'!
-
I agree wholeheartedly. I've always found most family historians to be the most helpful and friendly people imaginable. But, as I was always taught as a child, its extremely bad manners to take without being asked!!!
-
I changed my Ancestry tree to Private simply because I was fed up with seeing that people had downloaded photos and information from it but never bothered to contact me.
I'm quite happy to share any of my finding with people who return the favour but why should I let others 'take' my things without so much as saying 'Hello- I think we are related'!
Ooooh how I agree with you.
I have lots of info copied from my tree on ancestry and although I don't mind it would be nice to have a thank you.So far not one person have given me that courtesy.
Marysma
-
I've got a feeling that people with thousands and thousands of names in a tree can't even find the person you would be talking about.
They are just ridiculous people.
-
I've just found a tree on Ancestry which shows that gt grandfather married twice. His other 'wife' was a man 70 years his senior. :o
It's all backed up by source citations so it must be true. ::)
-
I changed my Ancestry tree to Private simply because I was fed up with seeing that people had downloaded photos and information from it but never bothered to contact me.
I'm quite happy to share any of my finding with people who return the favour but why should I let others 'take' my things without so much as saying 'Hello- I think we are related'!
i agree with you people have copied my photo's etc from my tree onto their tree and in some of them it's obvious we are not related i sent a message to some of them asking why have you put MY mother and other family members photo's onto your tree we are not the same family i had no responce i found it upsetting and annoying some may say so what but its my mum, my dad etc >:(
-
I've only just joined Mundia as I saw a post about it on here the other day. I was amazed at the inaccuracy of the first tree I looked at ! I was quite surprised to find that my great grandfather appeared in different areas of the county on every Census even though I know he lived in the same house for 80 years. He managed to have a child several years after his death. And to cap it all he apparently died in 1926 which is strange considering my mum has pictures of him with her as a child and she wasn't born until 1950 :-\
I haven't studied many other trees on there yet but it certainly seems that some people are just name collectors. The irony is that as they have obviously made a mistake with my G Grandfather so have the wrong parents for him that the rest of the tree is all wrong. I can't see any point in wasting the time on a tree which is not checked thoroughly. As this is all from a period of 1880- 1960 which is so well documented there is little excuse for making guesses.
I think I will keep my tree private when I finally get round to documenting properly.
-
Hi there after coming across this post I thought I would have a look at the website and was also shocked to find also that my grandmothers 2nd husband had his details changed and also someone pinched a photo of my grandmother. My grandmothers 2nd husband fathers details said he was born in America when all the time apart from about 6 months they lived in yorkshire the 6 months they were living in Newcastle Upon Tyne.
What gives people the right to take things without asking first.
-
What gives people the right to take things without asking first.
I'm afraid it is the fact that they are on the internet for everyone to see, therefore people feel that they have a right to copy them. That is why I made sure my tree is private.
-
I'm afraid it is the fact that they are on the internet for everyone to see, therefore people feel that they have a right to copy them. That is why I made sure my tree is private.
Have we considered though, that Rootschat is free for anyone who wishes to browse and easily searchable for that 'certain name' through goog..
Due to the excellence of the researchers here, it is likely that information gleaned will at least be close to correct, but it can easily be sliced and summarised and added to 'trees' willy-nilly.
It is a risk we take in pursuit of a hobby in the modern age ::)
Sue
-
According to a tree on Ancestry my g-g-grandfather's mother was only one year old when she had him! :o
Furthermore, according to the same tree, g-g-granddad (who was transported to Australia in 1846) is on all the England Censuses from 1841 to 1881 despite having married (1) in 1849 and (2) in 1868 both in Australia and having had 4 children all born in Oz between 1850 and 1875 ???
(Also they have wrong place of birth, and wrong siblings.)
This info has been copied onto no less than 6 other trees, just shows how much care some people take in checking their sources.
In a way I wish these people would copy my tree - at least then they wouldn't be spreading such rubbish.