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Title: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 13:13 GMT (UK)
My family moved at one time from Co.Antrim to Scotland.I believe it was to the Govan area. Please could anyone help me, their names were Adam and Sarah Humphrey and two children, Margaret and Adam. I believe that both Adams may have been in the poor house. Any information would be amazing, especially regarding deaths etc.
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 November 12 13:25 GMT (UK)
More details on previous topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,622115
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi ,

Scotlandspeople has a Sarah Humphrey(other surname Gray) death 1894 Lanark , born c1842

ev
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 14:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks ever so much, would you have any ideas on why both her husband and son were in Govan poorhouse in 1891 and she wasn't? Would you know were she was in 1891?
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 14:31 GMT (UK)
Have you looked at the image on SP ?(On the index the maiden name could be Humphrey or Gray)
It may not be your Sarah  :-\

The other thing would be to look at the original 1891 Census on SP to see if Adam is married or widowed.

ev
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: sancti on Thursday 01 November 12 14:33 GMT (UK)
They may have been in the Poor House hospital

This looks like Sarah with a duplicate entry for Adam


Sarah Humprey 50 Wife born Ireland occ Outdoor worker
Margt Humprey 16
Adam Humprey 9
Adam Humprey 10

Address
77 George St Partick Govan
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 14:57 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage for an Adam Humphrey in 1901 Lanark(SP)
If that is your Adam(junior?) it should have his parents names and note if they were deceased or not

ev
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 15:00 GMT (UK)
ev, apologies, what is sp?
sancti - thankyou, were did you find that address - is it the hospital address?
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 15:03 GMT (UK)
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Scottish deaths (as well as marriages & births) available at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (pay per view). They also have scanned images of census records.....aghadowey

ev

Added - well there is an Adam Humphrey on the 1901 Census age 21 in Lanark but birthplace is given as Glasgow
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 15:08 GMT (UK)
Apologies to all, not familiar with Scottish links, also not too computer literate! Have ms so thinking can be slow. Appreciate all the help you can give.
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 November 12 15:35 GMT (UK)
There's a Cpl. Adam Humphrey born Whiteinch, Lanarkshire but living in Motherwell in WWII King's Own Scottish Borderers, killed in action 17 Aug.1917. Not sure is here's the correct Adam and/or the one in 1901 census. Unfortunately CWGC site gives no details of parents or possible spouse-
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/97763/HUMPHREY,%20A
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 15:44 GMT (UK)
Minor records , service returns , deaths , Adam Humphrey , 1917 , born c1878 on SP.

ev
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 19:30 GMT (UK)
Thank you one and all. Ev - confirming that the marriage in 1901 is the correct Adam junior. Don't think the ww1 death is him. Would like to ask sancti were to find the information regarding the address given in Glasgow.
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 20:14 GMT (UK)
Were both parents both deceased(dec.) on the 1901 marriage certificate ?
What was Adam's wife's name ?

Think sancti found that address on the 1891 Census transcription

ev
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Thursday 01 November 12 20:25 GMT (UK)
ev, yes Adam's parents were both deceased. His wife is    Jane Smellie Love. I found 2 births registered to Adam (Jnr) and Jane (Love)  - an Adam 20/10/1901 and an Agnes 1/11 1907 (today!!). Sadly I also found that the little girl died on 7/11/1918 age 11yrs. The amazing thing is that the father (Adam) IS the ww1 soldier previously mentioned - gives his details on the death certificate of Agnes - what a journey today has been!
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: sancti on Thursday 01 November 12 20:42 GMT (UK)
The address was from the census transcription

The Poorhouse Hospital would have been this one

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSG00004&remove=99&t=2
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: ev on Thursday 01 November 12 20:43 GMT (UK)
Good find by Aghadowey  :)
Adam's army number is quite low(7795) so I would suspect he was in the Army before 1914(or enlisted early)

You might want to post on the Armed Forces board on Rootschat to see if you can find out anything
else about Adam junior. There will be a medal card at the very least.

ev

Added -
National Records of Scotland has an informal will for Adam(from pay book)
Will of 7795 Corporal Adam Humphrey, M.M., 1st Bn., King's Own Scottish Borderers, Cause of death: Killed in action, France or Belgium, Theatre: France and Flanders, 17 Aug 1917
Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: sancti on Thursday 01 November 12 20:54 GMT (UK)
Corporal Adam Humphrey (7795), 1st Battalion King's Own Scottish Borderers,
b Whiteinch, Lanark d 17 Aug 1917
enlisted Hamilton, Lanark, awarded Military Medal

Title: Re: Humphrey family
Post by: grantj on Tuesday 06 November 12 12:00 GMT (UK)
Going to try and pick your brains one last time, please. OK, I know that there was an Adam Humphrey(junior) born 1901, son of Adam and Jane (nee Love) Humphrey. Can't find any marriage or death record for him after that. Any suggestions? Had thought about possible emigration - any sites that would give me further info?