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Title: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Friday 19 October 12 02:07 BST (UK)
I am looking for any info on Mathew Hagarty & his wife Ann Elizabeth Hawkins.

Mathew was a barrister, Dublin and barrister and an examiner for the Court of Prerogative for Ireland.

They had at least 7 children ( dates of birth are abt)

Henry b. 1806
Mathew b. 1807
Georgia b. 1809
Elizabeth b. 1811
Fidelia b. 1814
John Hawkins b. 17 Sept. 1816 in Dublin
Anthony b. 1818

I think they may have come to New York on the "John & Eliza" in May of 1834 sans Fidelia. with Richard Holland and Edward Gibson and made their way to Ontario

John Hawkins Hagarty became Sir John Hawkins Hagarty.  John Hawkins Hagarty was educated privately and at Trinity College in Dublin, where he stayed for a year (1832–33). He immigrated to Upper Canada in 1834, spending his first year on a farm near Bowmanville.

Any info on Mathew and Anne Elizabeth would be appreciated

anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 19 October 12 10:40 BST (UK)
There's are a series of baptism matches on the IrishGenealogy website for some of the names you mentioned - but mother's name for these children is Sarah.

e.g.  Baptism of Fidelia Haggarty - 15 Nov 1814 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/cbedc60174376)
       Parish : St. Paul's, Church of Ireland, Dublin City

other baptisms listed include
  Matthew Henry 1807
  Henry 1808
  Georgina 1809
  Elizabeth 1811
 
see : Hag[g]arty baptisms (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?namefm=mat*&namel=hagerty&exact=&name2fm=&name2l=&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=DUBLIN+%28COI%29&parish=&century=&decade=&sort=date&pageSize=100&ddB=&mmB=&yyB=&ddM=&mmM=&yyM=&ddD=&mmD=&yyD=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&submit=Search)

I dont see Mathew listed as a barrister in Ireland in Pigot's 1824.


Shane

Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 19 October 12 12:14 BST (UK)
A Matthew Hagarty is listed in 1813 as a Public Notary with an address at Puffin Street, Dublin.

In 1818 he's listed as a Court Examiner and Public Notary with his office at 10 Henrietta St.
In 1834 the Henrietta street address is listed with three proctors with the surnames Tilly,
Hamilton & Ormsby. No sign of Matthew in the Index that I can find....


(sources : 1813 & 1818 Treble Almanac, Pettigrew & Oulton 1834)


Shane
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Friday 19 October 12 13:09 BST (UK)
Hi Shane,

Thanks so much for the info on the bapts and Matthew Hagarty.  That was quick.

I wasn't sure of his wife's name.  I got the name Ann Elizabeth off another forum, so Sarah could be the name.  Is there a record of death of Jane Hagarty between 1795 and 1806?  I wonder if she was his first wife?
Apparently Fidelia didn't come to North America with the family in 1834.  I wonder what happened to her.

Is there any info on a Sarah Hawkins?

I very much appreciate you replying to my query

Thanks again,

anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 19 October 12 13:25 BST (UK)
not that many death/burials in the registers at that time, just one Jane Hagerty death in the 1800s, and that's in 1818 in Taney parish, which is in County Dublin, and south of the city. The only other mention of a death for that name is in the city in 1755.

Nothing earlier that I've been able to find for Matthew and Sarah, such as a marriage, but the records only cover the city, so it's possible they married elsewhere, or in parish where the records dont go back far enough.

here's a link to the homepage of the website with the parish records :

  www.irishgenealogy.ie


S.
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Friday 19 October 12 15:35 BST (UK)
Hi Shane,

Thanks for your reply.  I also had in my records that Mathew's wife may have been Mrs. Corey or Cobey before he married her.

anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: johnjensen on Friday 19 October 12 18:19 BST (UK)
Plenty of info in the following that you don't appear to have:

http://genforum.genealogy.com/haggarty/messages/103.html
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Friday 19 October 12 20:05 BST (UK)
Hi JohnJensen,

Thanks for your reply.  I have seen this posting and have left a reply on this forum for David.  His email is marked hidden.  So far he hasn't replied.  I have info after they came to Canada, but not much of their lives in Ireland.  I am a gg grand daughter of Elizabeth Hagarty and Henry Solomon Reid.

anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Sarah Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Friday 19 October 12 22:10 BST (UK)
On the web I have found a John Hawkins, tennant farmer, born Enniscorthy, Wexford, Ireland who married Eiliza Bacon b. Dublin.  They had 4 children.

Anthony Hawkins, b. Ballycorsey

Fidelia Maria Hawkins, b. abt 1782 and married 1800 William Henry Creagh.  William was born abt 1777 to Bartholomew Creagh and Rebecca Buchnan.  William died abt 1826 in NY city New York.  They had 7 children

John Hawkins 1785-1845

Sarah Hawkins 1785- 1821  Sarah married Matthew Hagarty in 1806 and died 1821

These given names seem to be passed on to Mathew and Sarah's children.  The date of Sarah's death doesn't go with the fact that they left Ireland in 1834.

anngar


Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 20 October 12 08:34 BST (UK)
Are you sure Matthew Snr and Sarah travelled in 1834?  This site only lists the children, incl Matthew jr:

http://tinyurl.com/9yxodmg

Mathew snr is listed at Prussia St in 1821/22
Possibly his last directory listing?

http://www26.us.archive.org/stream/commercialdirect1821dire/commercialdirect1821dire_djvu.txt
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Sarah Hawkins
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 20 October 12 10:04 BST (UK)
On the web I have found a John Hawkins, tennant farmer, born Enniscorthy, Wexford, Ireland who married Eiliza Bacon b. Dublin.  They had 4 children.
....

be careful with these 'online' trees. The are often unreliable, and usually these are unsourced and impossible to verify. In many cases the dates given come from before the start of parish records.



Shane
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 20 October 12 11:55 BST (UK)
ship John & Elizabeth arrived 22.5.1834 on route to Canada
http://www.castlegarden.org
Anthony 16, Georgina 24, John 18, Mathew 26, Henry 25, Eliza 22.

Biography of Sir John Hawkins Hagarty
http://www.biographi.ca  (you might have to type this yourself)

Sir John Hawkins Hagarty, Lawyer, Teacher, Politican, Author and Judge

Have you written to any of the courts in Dublin about Mathew Hagarty or the National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland.



Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 20 October 12 12:26 BST (UK)
http://www.myhero.com

by Alex from Calgary

type in search - Hagarty

Alex says Sir John is his Hero
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Saturday 20 October 12 13:00 BST (UK)
Hi johnjensen

No I wasn't sure if the parents came with the children.  In my records in said "wife of H. S. Reid came from Ireland to Port Hope in 1837 to farm near Bowmanville with her 4 brothers, Mathew, Henry, John Hawkins & Anthony."

From what you sent to me it appears that the children came without them.

Thanks for the records,

anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Saturday 20 October 12 13:24 BST (UK)
Hi Rathmore

Interesting that 3 of the boys listed occupation as Mariner, Marine.  I found Henry's occupation as Tourist funny.  I would like that job.
I have seen the biography of John before.  The my hero site was one of the sites where I had obtained the name Ann Elizabeth Hawkins as Mathew Sr's wife.

Writing to  the courts in Dublin about Mathew Hagarty or the National Library of Ireland is a good idea.

Thanks,

anngar

Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Sarah Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Saturday 20 October 12 13:28 BST (UK)
Quote

be careful with these 'online' trees. The are often unreliable, and usually these are unsourced and impossible to verify. In many cases the dates given come from before the start of parish records.



Shane
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good advice.  I posted the the info to see if I could verify it somehow.  I love Rootschat because I get such good advice and info.

Thanks
anngar
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: fishvalet on Tuesday 06 December 16 05:44 GMT (UK)
John Hawkins Hagarty's sister Elizabeth married Col. Henry Solomon Reid 5 Apr 1836 in Bowmanville Upper Canada (his second wife).H. S. Reid died 28 Nov 1852.  Elizabeth died 8 Nov 1892 in Bowmanville. Georgina Hagarty married Richard Lee Holland. Georgina died 10 Sept 1895 in Bowmanville.
Refn: Fairbain, J.B.: History and Reminiscences of Bowmanville, 1906. and deaths reported in Bowmanville New Statesman
So no parents on the boat.
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 06 December 16 10:38 GMT (UK)
undocumented children ?  noting Prussia St was given as last known address
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izv/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/12912712333

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izw/
Title: Re: Mathew Hagarty & Ann Elizabeth Hawkins
Post by: anngar on Thursday 08 December 16 04:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you dathai

Sarah and Ann could be daughters of Mathew and Sarah.  The dates fit.  The info on the churchyard is interesting.

also

Thank you fishvalet
Mathew died 1820 and Sarah died 1821 so this is reason parents weren't on the boat in 1834.

anngar