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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: whiston on Wednesday 17 October 12 15:21 BST (UK)
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John born 1861 Huddersfield Yorkshire,went to the USA just after 1901 with
wife emmeline children frank,richard,phiip, millicent,maude and geoffrey.
Applied for naturalisation new york county between 1907 and 1924.
Does anyone have any information?
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He appears to be on the 1920 Census here - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJ15-F9L# He was a building engineer living at 116 Sherman Ave. (The naturalization index gives the same address, and no other specific information.) The census says he & his wife emigrated in 1906.
In the 1915 New York state census, John is living with daughter Maud Radley & her husband Clifford, wife Emmeline, and son Geoffrey. John was listed as a plumber.
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Hi Whiston,
Welcome to Rootschat
John and Emmeline appear on the 1915 New York Census with married daughter Maude.
Cliffta Radley 23 Born Eng. Gardener.
Maud Radley 18 Born Eng
John Hale 54 Born Eng. Father-in-law. Plummer. Journeyman.
Emmline Hale 57 Born Eng. Mother-in-law
Geoffrey Hale 15 Born Eng. Brother-in-law. Office boy.
1915 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K92V-YTD
1920 Maude Radley and family
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MV36-Q1Y
1930 Maude Radley and Family
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GP-25C
1940 Maude Radley and Family
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQ5C-1K4
Sandra
Sorry posted over Shelly
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Emmeline & Geoffrey are together in the 1925 state census at the same address, but John is not with them. There's a possible death on the death index at www.italiangen.org for John Hale, age 64, on 2 Oct. 1924 in Manhattan.
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Waring Row Yonkers, Westchester, New York in 1940
Janet Cellet 91
Emmeline Hale 83 Born England. Widowed. Lodger.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K31R-4T9
Sandra
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On www.fultonhistory.com, there is an obituary for Millicent Hassall, daughter of the late John & Emmeline Ennis Hale. It says she was born in England 17 Jun. 1890 and previously lived in New York City. Millicent died 21 Jun. 1985 in Kent, New York. If you do a search for the exact phrase "Emmeline Ennis Hale", it should come up.
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Possibility for the son Richard Hale in Yonkers Ward 5, Westchester, New York 1910
Richard Hale 22 Born Eng. Immigrated 1908. Marriage 1 for 2 years. Weaver. Carpet Co.
Annie E Hale 21 Born Eng. Had 1 child.
Stanley Hale Born Eng. 1 year 9 months
Wentworth Wrigley 31 Born Eng. Brother-in-law. Wireman. Elevator Co.
Emma J Wrigley 26 Born Eng.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M531-GP6
Sandra
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Canadian Attestation Papers for Richard Hale born July 28th 1887 Huddersfield
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rw9/
Sandra
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Also on the fultonhistory.com site, there is an obituary for Frank Hale, who died 7 Mar. 1919 in Yonkers. It says he was survived by his wife, 4 children, his parents, and 5 siblings - Geoffrey Hale of New York, Richard Hale in the Canadian service, Robert Hale of England, Mrs. Maud Radley and Mrs. Millicent Hassall of Yonkers. Internment was to be at Oakland cemetery.
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Immigration date was 1908 - New York Passenger List for Richard Hale - Richard Hale - born 1887 Huddersfield. England. Aged 20 years and 6 months. Married Plummer. Father Mr Hale, 173 Beach St. Yonkers. New York
Port of departure: Liverpool, England to New York on the Celtic arriving 31 January 1908
Nearest relative was Mr R Hale., 60 Hunting Towler Road. Sheffield.
Sandra
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There is a family tree with Richard Hale, Annie E Dunstan and Stanley. Looks like Richard married in Sheffield. Yorkshire - Q4 1907 - 9 c 1101
No sources or other information.
Sandra
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Richard and Annie in 1915 with a few more children - Yonkers Ward 05, Westchester, New York.
Richard Hale 28 Weaver. Carpet Shop
Annie A Hale 27
Stanley Hale 7 Born Eng
Rose E Hale 5 Born NY
Edna Hale 1 Born NY
Thomas Barkley 24 Lodger
Sandra
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Fultonhistory.com has an obituary for John Hale in the Yonkers Statesman newspaper which fits with the 1924 death date I found above. His wife is not mentioned in the obit, but it lists 5 children (Mrs. Clifford Radley of Yonkers, Mrs. Harry Hassel of New York City, Robert of Yarmouth, England, Richard of Ontario, Canada, and Jeffrey of New York City) and 2 Hale grandchildren of Bryn Mawr Park. Internment was in Oakland Cemetery.
Also on fultonhistory are a number of articles mentioning Maud Radley separating from her husband.
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Geoffrey Hale with wife Mildred and daughter in 1930 (Ralph Schleck was the brother - in - law)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GG-VVK
Geoffrey Hale with wife and daughter in 1940
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQ5Z-3KL
Sandra
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Mildred Schleck/Hale of 265 Sedgewick Avenue, a former employee of Herberts Candy Shop on South Broadway died unexpectedly at Yonkers Professional Hospital aged 47 years. etc etc
Details on the fulton site - Yonkers New York Herald Statesman Thursday May 15th 1952
Sandra
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Marriage of Geoffrey
Madeline Mildred Schleck Jul 22 1925 Manhattan 20145
Geoffrey Hale Jul 22 1925 Manhattan 20145
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rwa/
Sandra
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The daughter of Geoffrey and Mildred was Barbara Hale who married in 1955 to Harry M Dando, son of Mrs Jennie Dando and the late Charles Dando.
New York Herald Statesman Friday February 1955 shows a photograph of Barbara Hale/Dando (fulton site)
Barbara Dando - 10 August 1928 and died 10 January 2006
Last Residence: 10573 Port Chester, Westchester, New York
SSN issued in New York (Before 1951)
Sandra
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MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE INFORMATION
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To Sandra thanks for information is Mr R Hale at 60 Hunting Tower Road Sheffield
from the line of Robert Hale and Hannah Kezia Brunton if so which child?
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He was a son of John and Emmeline - shows on the 1891 UK Census with them. Also mentioned in Shelly's reply 8 - the Obituary for brother Frank Hale who died in 1919
John H Hale 30 Emmeline Hale 33 Robert E Hale 8 Frank Hale 6 Richard Hale 4 Philip Hale 1
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/7J5K-SZM
Sandra
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Frank Hale mentioned in reply 8 by Shelly
FIND A GRAVE
Born December 20, 1884 and died March 7, 1919
Burial:Oakland Cemetery Yonkers Westchester County New York.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82429367
Sandra
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Many thanks for taking time and trouble to provide me with additional information,previously I had no information on John Helm Hale and family,
my father only used to say that he had an uncle john who went to America.
Is the relative Mr R HALE still living?
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I doubt that anyone who was an adult in 1908 is still living. You should be able to see that passenger list on www.ellisisland.org, but the writing is kind of unclear. It might be M.R. Hale or W.R. Hale.