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Title: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 19:56 BST (UK)
In the Mar 1/4 1848 Benjamin GREGORY married Ann nee SLACK in Bakewell. Can anyone tell me who his father was?
Benjamin was a journeyman joiner as was his son Peter.
Benjamin was born in Matlock about 1822 but there were 2 Benjamin GREGORYs at about this time.

Family rumour has it that Peter GREGORY was bright and was going to University but his father stopped funding him and he had to leave as Peter married a Catholic girl, Mary Ann McMAIN in Preston, Lancashire in the Mar 1/4 1880.

Family rumour also has it that this GREGORY family were friends with Lord Derby.
As ever, just trying to get to the bottom of these rumours. Any help welcome. Thank you.
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:23 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie

I have checked the Bakewell marriage transcript, but there is no marriage there for them.  Where was your information from?

On Free BMD they married in the Bakewell registration District, but not necessarly in Bakewell parish.  There are over 70 parishes in the Bakewll reg district.

Carol
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:26 BST (UK)
There is this baptism at Matlock

Benjamin Gregory bapt 2.4. 1820 to John & Phoebe, Farmer at Tansley.

Carol
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:27 BST (UK)
To order Wedding cert
Bakewell  vol 19  page341
Benjamin Gregory and Ann Slack
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:31 BST (UK)
1851 census
Benjamin age 27 lead miner born Great Hucklow Derbyshire
Ann age 25 born Warlow Derbyshire
Alexander son 3 born Wardlow
William son 1 Wardlow
Thomas Sellors Gregory, son 4mths Wardlow
Address Wardlow, Bakewell, Derbyshire
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:32 BST (UK)
Benjamin born Tansley is a farmer who married a Mary
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:37 BST (UK)
looks like Benjamin remarried an Eliza in 1859.
2 daughters Martha and Elizabeth with them in 61
living Windmil, Hazlebadge
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:42 BST (UK)
Do we know when son Peter was born?
Theres a Peter in 51 with a father Peter who was a joiner/journeyman
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:43 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie

When and where was Peter born / baptised ?

Do you have his birth certificate to prove his parents were Benjamin & Ann?


Carol
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:44 BST (UK)
Theres a Peter with a Mary A in Preston in 81 a Carpenter born in Sheffield?
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:50 BST (UK)
1861
Newbold, Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Benjamin, 38, Ironer, Matlock Derbyshire
Ann, wife, 31, Matlock
William, son, 16, Joiner Apprentice, Matlock
John, son, 11, scholar, Matlock
Benjamin, son, 4, Sheffield Yorkshire
Peter, son, 3, Sheffield Yorkshire
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:53 BST (UK)
Yes the birth certificate gives Peter GREGORY b. 21 Apr 1858 Newhursth? St, Nether Hallam Father: Benjamin GREGORY Journeyman Joiner Mother: Ann GREGORY formerly SLACK (she made her mark)

1851 census: HO107 / 2341 / 223 / p 28 Sch. 127: Park Hill Lane, Sheffield Park, Sheffield
Benjamin GREGORY Hd Ma 29 Joiner & Maltster b. Matlock, Derbyshire
Ann GREGORY Wi Ma 28 b. Matlock, Derbyshire
William GREGORY So 8 b. Matlock, Derbyshire
John GREGORY So 1 b. Matlock, Derbyshire

In 1841 I think I have Benjamin in HO107 / 193 / 4 / 10 / 12 p 12: Ridings, Alfreton, Derbyshire (with unrelated people)
Benjamin GREGORY 15 Joiner J b. Derbyshire
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:54 BST (UK)
1871: Cottaage Withington Chorlston Lancashire
Benjamin and Ann born Derbyshire with sons
Benjamin and Peter born Yorkshire Phillip born Hampshire and daughter Sarah born Sussex
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:55 BST (UK)
Yes that's them in 1861 but it says Joiner, not Ironer
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:57 BST (UK)
Thanks, I've got them coming forward through the censuses. Its the story going backwards from Benjamin b. about 1822 in Matlock that puzzles me.
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: doubleRR on Tuesday 16 October 12 20:58 BST (UK)
Yes that's them in 1861 but it says Joiner, not Ironer

Thats transcribers for you lol

If you think you have him in 41 and not with family then you'll prob need to order wedding cert to find Fathers name
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 21:00 BST (UK)
I also found and disproved as mine the christening for Benjamin GREGORY 2 Apr 1820 to John & Phoebe Farmer of Tansley. I can't find hide nor hair of my Benjamin. Perhaps he was illegitimate or non-conformist. Looks like I'll have to order the marriage certificate of Benjamin & Ann SLACK.
Title: Re: Matlock, Bakewell-Benjamin GREGORY
Post by: Jackie M53 on Tuesday 16 October 12 21:02 BST (UK)
Thanks for the input. Off I go to spend some money :-[