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Title: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: grice on Sunday 14 October 12 15:00 BST (UK)
Hello all i am looking for any information on Allen Williams,he emigrated to America in 1921 and returned to Grantham in 1932.He came to 56 High street Grantham was that a privat dwelling or buisness premises.

Any help please


Many thanks

neil
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 14 October 12 15:56 BST (UK)
It's a new building now but in the 1933 directory it was the premises of Appleby and Hastings (Tailors).  Presumably there could have been living accommodation above.

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Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: grice on Sunday 14 October 12 16:46 BST (UK)
Thank you Geoff.E,is there any way to find out if it was living accommodation and who lived there.

neil
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 14 October 12 16:59 BST (UK)
Perhaps there are electoral registers somewhere.  :-\
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: The Mc on Sunday 14 October 12 17:35 BST (UK)
There is this marriage on FreeBMD of an Allen Williams marrying an Olive C Gillett in the Dec Qtr of 1914 in the Grantham Reg. District......

There is also the death of an Olive C Williams in March Qtr of 1925 in the Bristol Reg District but she was aged only 25 at death and if that is her marriage above then she would have been a bride at 14......mmmm!  ???
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: grice on Sunday 14 October 12 17:40 BST (UK)
I would like to thank everyone for there help in my search for the Williams family..

Best wishes

neil
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 October 12 17:52 BST (UK)
There is also the death of an Olive C Williams in March Qtr of 1925 in the Bristol Reg District but she was aged only 25 at death and if that is her marriage above then she would have been a bride at 14......mmmm!  ???

Olive was in America until 1932 so not her, she returned home with the two children   ;D 
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: The Mc on Sunday 14 October 12 19:06 BST (UK)
There is also the death of an Olive C Williams in March Qtr of 1925 in the Bristol Reg District but she was aged only 25 at death and if that is her marriage above then she would have been a bride at 14......mmmm!  ???

Olive was in America until 1932 so not her, she returned home with the two children   ;D 

 I am glad you cleared that up....
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: dcbnwh on Monday 15 October 12 09:52 BST (UK)
There is an arrival record for Allen and Olive in New York on 14th April 1920 but the entry has been crossed out.
It gives Allen's mother-in-law as Mrs. Gillett, 128 Harrowby Road, Grantham. It says that they are heading for Lowell, Mass.
Children are Dorothy and Gordon.

There is a second entry on 16th May, giving Allen's father-in-law as Mr. J Gillett, 128 Harrowby Road. Allen is a motor engineer. Olive is shown as Clare but the previous record is Clara - Olive Clara Gillett, born in Peterborough.

Allen arrived back in Liverpool in April 1932. He is a chauffeur of 56 High Street, Grantham.
Olive and the children arrived back in July but their destination is Cadby (Cadeby?), Leicestershire.

In 1930, Allen is a garage mechanic, living in First Street, Tewksbury, Massachusetts, with Olive and the children.

As Geoff suggests, it sounds as though they were renting above a shop, given Allen's occupation.

David

P.S. I have since noticed that there is a tree on Ancestry with photographs of Allen and his parents.
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: Del 80 on Monday 15 October 12 17:37 BST (UK)
Just a thought, but in 1932, 56 High st. would have been almost next door to the George Hotel, and behind no. 56 would have been the George Hotel garages, it must have been a busy place, ideal for someone who was either a motor mechanic, or a chauffeur............Del.
Title: Re: Allen williams Grantham.
Post by: tup1 on Monday 15 October 12 20:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

The No.56 was the first premises in the row of shops before the George Hotel which was No 60-62 and the row of shops were originally called Waterloo House.Above the shops were lovely Bay windows which are shown in a "Grantham" book by Malcolm Knapp ISBN No.978-0-7524-5024-7 Page 64 and another one in "Grantham Revisited" by Fred Leadbetter.ISBN. No. 0-7524-3825-5 Page 50.Plus another in  "Around Grantham" by Fred Leadbetter ISBN.No.0-7524-1863-7
So it is possible that there were flats/living accommodation above the shops.When I remember No.56 it was a Hilton's Shoe shop before it was pulled down.

Kathy