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Title: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: welshjo on Sunday 14 October 12 14:31 BST (UK)
Was born in 1856 in Burton On Trent in Staffordshire England. Married Martha Washington in 1875. Present on 1881 and 1891 census returns in staffordshire area. Cant see him in 1901.
Ellis Island has an arrival of a robt s loffill in oct 1892. Ancestry has a naturalization paper for Robert Shelley Loffill in Jul 1901. Can someone help locate him in 1900 census please ?

How would i find out if he stated in US or returned to England?

THANKS
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: Lisa in California on Sunday 14 October 12 15:10 BST (UK)
U.S. Naturalization
Robert Shelley Loffiel
naturalized July 26, 1901
address: 2127 Bergen Street, Brooklyn
Manufacturer
Witness:  Thomas Fenn
Date of Arrival:  October 6, 1891(?)

1900 Brooklyn Ward 26, Kings Co., NY
Robert Lofel, boarder, born June 1861, age 38, single, born England, immigrated 1892, Millinery Goods
Living in the household of Thomas Fenn.
2127 Bergen Street
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: The Mc on Sunday 14 October 12 15:44 BST (UK)
Are you aware than on FreeBMD there is the death of a Robert S Loffill in the Dec Qtr of 1933 in the Stoke Reg. District in Staffordhire (vol. 6b page 219). That would make his age at death to be 77 if born in 1856.

I do not know what the S stands for so it might not be him but then there is the Staffordshire connection again! And Loffills is not a common name.The mystery deepens.....
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: welshjo on Sunday 14 October 12 15:52 BST (UK)
The 1933 death is aged 78 so its in the right age bracket. There arent too many robert loffill registrations.

Any ideas how i would find out if he came back?
Can anyone help me out by seeing if he appears on any later US census returns?

Thanks for info so far. Its a great help
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: Lisa in California on Sunday 14 October 12 18:58 BST (UK)
What occupation did your Robert have while living in England, please?

October 1892 passenger list
Robt. S.? Loffill, age 34, Prof. of Music, native country England, last residence Longton(?), intended destination Brooklyn.

Does this sound like your man?
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 October 12 19:00 BST (UK)
1897 Brooklyn city directory
Loffill, Rob't  music  h 205 Hale av

http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Directory/1897/l.html
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 October 12 19:07 BST (UK)
A listing of churches in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle from 1 May 1898 lists the choirmaster of the Arlington Ave. Presbyterian church as Robert Loffill. 
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: welshjo on Sunday 14 October 12 19:35 BST (UK)
This is where it gets complicated! Occupation in 1871 relates to pottery. 1881 general labourer. 1891engine man. That sounds nothing like a musician!! But the middle name of Shelley isnt exactly common! Bit of a mystery.
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: welshjo on Sunday 14 October 12 19:38 BST (UK)
His addresses in 1871 - 1891 censuses all in longton/trentham (stoke) area.
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 October 12 19:55 BST (UK)
1894 Brooklyn city directory
Loffill, Rob't., teacher, home 391 DeKalb av.

1895 Brooklyn city directory - no Loffill/Loffell

1898 Brooklyn city directory
Loffill, Rob't,  music,  h 205 Hale av

1899 Brooklyn city directory
Loffill, Rob't, musician, home 2129 Bergen

1900 Brooklyn city directory - no Loffill/Loffell

1901 Brooklyn city directory
Loffirm (?), Rob't., clerk, home 129 Bergen

1902 Brooklyn city directory
Loffell, Rob't. S., mfr., 2127 Bergen

1904 Brooklyn city directory - no Loffill/Loffell
Title: Re: Robert Shelley Loffill
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 October 12 20:04 BST (UK)
The 1901 Brooklyn city directory has Thomas Fenn living at 2129 Bergen St., so that seems to be another connection to that address.